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Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-19-2007, 10:25 AM:

I'm curious about the Goofy cartoon attached to NT2. It's called "How to Set Up a Home Theatre." I assume it's going to be a typical Goofy where everything goes wrong, but I'm wondering if it's going to "dis" the theatre industry in any way. I wouldn't think Disney would be that dumb, but I'll be previewing it, that's for sure!

Anyone heard anything?

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 12-19-2007, 10:36 AM:

I've seen it. It was in the "2007 Animation Show of Shows" (the compilation that Ron Diamond distributes). It's funny. Goofy buys a TV set to watch football and then has trouble setting it up. Nothing more or less than that. Nothing about the motion-picture exhibition industry at all.

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 12-19-2007, 01:44 PM:

It is supposed to be a tribute to the old HOW TO DO IT Goofy cartoons. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. I wasn't going to see NATIONAL TREASURE, but there is a new Marcus Ultrascreen opening in the area and I want to check it out.

Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 12-22-2007, 12:25 AM:

"DOPEY Digital" [Smile]

Too bad it's not the scope a/r though [Frown]

horizontal black bars...

--jhawk

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-22-2007, 01:28 AM:

I liked it! Very funny. Makes fun of virtually everything to do with buying electronics. Most electronic nuts will find something to relate to here.

I liked the small Disney artifacts that are scattered through the film. Like when Goofy's TV is delivered, the "item number" on the box is "M1CK3Y M0U53" or something like that...and when he's clearing the shelf for his new gear, he has an old photo of Walt Disney in a frame. Funny stuff.

Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 12-22-2007, 07:04 AM:

The Walt thing made me sad. "Walt Disney is getting cleared out in favor of new modern technology. His time and values are over."

I guess they probably didn't mean it that way...

--jhawk

Posted by Mike Sellars (Member # 4042) on 12-22-2007, 03:38 PM:

Yeah, jhawk... Goofy swept Walt's photo right off of the shelf onto the floor to put a component in its place... Wow - seems like a big Disney no-no to me!
[Eek!]

Mike

Posted by Mark Lensenmayer (Member # 134) on 12-22-2007, 04:25 PM:

Wasn't that a sketch of John Lassiter on the shelf next to Disney?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-23-2007, 12:39 AM:

I was wondering that too.

Did anyone notice "Dopey Digital" on one of the equipment boxes?

This isn't a cartoon, it's an editorial! [Cool]

Posted by Ross Oba (Member # 3433) on 12-23-2007, 08:43 PM:

Every audience I saw laughed the whole time. Although I had one customer complaining that there were cartoons and not NT2. Obviously he didn't understand that NT2 was a Disney movie and it was a Disney cartoon. I guess they are too young to remember the days when cartoons would play before a movie.

John Lassiter was one of the names during the credits after the short.

Posted by Martin Brooks (Member # 1269) on 12-25-2007, 07:33 PM:

I found it surprisingly funny. Let's not over-react to "sweeping Disney off the shelf". The joke wasn't that the Disney picture frame was swept off, it was that it was there in the first place. But the "Dopey Digital" cracked me up most of all. There are also some funny bits about channel configurations and different levels of surround speakers: I think it wound up being an 11.1 or 13.1 configuration with speakers and wires everywhere.

There were a bunch of other jokes in it that only people who know the technology would completely understand, but the writers obviously had a great time getting those jokes in there. I liked it because it did not talk down to the audience (and I was never a fan of Disney short cartoons.)

It didn't bother me that this wasn't anamorphic - it bothered me more that it was 1.85 - it should have been 1.33 to give it the feel of an old cartoon (IMO). Of course then idiot patrons would have probably complained that it wasn't filling the screen.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 12-27-2007, 12:09 AM:

That's one thing that I like about these Disney releases: bringing back the "cartoon before the feature" concept of the olden days, and this Goofy cartoon was no different.

This brings in the excitment of being truly entertained with laughter during the appetizer and getting the audience settled down for the main course when the feature begins.

(Now, if we can only get FOX and others to bring out the "Movietone" News Reels, then we've got some entertainment value there...)

On the concept of the 1.85:1 - and an idea to really make it look classic: is for Disney to "matt in" colorful curtains on each side of the picture, so that these curtains will close at the end of the short and reopen to full to be ready for the feature.. This will definitely keep the idiot audience saying that the screen isn't used all the way..

-Monte

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 12-27-2007, 12:46 AM:

quote: Ross Oba
Every audience I saw laughed the whole time. Although I had one customer complaining that there were cartoons and not NT2. Obviously he didn't understand that NT2 was a Disney movie and it was a Disney cartoon. I guess they are too young to remember the days when cartoons would play before a movie.

Had the same thing today when I helped out at my old theater. Some guy was complaining that we weren't playing the right movie.

quote: Monte L Fullmer
On the concept of the 1.85:1 - and an idea to really make it look classic: is for Disney to "matt in" colorful curtains on each side of the picture, so that these curtains will close at the end of the short and reopen to full to be ready for the feature.. This will definitely keep the idiot audience saying that the screen isn't used all the way..

Wholeheartedly concur. I was so annoyed that I wasted my time running to look at an auditorium of "Enchanted" since someone said the masking was wrong only to see it was the "cartoon" part of the movie (and even if that auditorium had side maskings, Disney requested them to not be used during the movie).

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 12-27-2007, 02:38 AM:

quote: Monte L Fullmer

On the concept of the 1.85:1 - and an idea to really make it look classic: is for Disney to "matt in" colorful curtains on each side of the picture, so that these curtains will close at the end of the short and reopen to full to be ready for the feature.. This will definitely keep the idiot audience saying that the screen isn't used all the way.

Interesting idea, except if you actually do have curtains, in which case this would prevent one from using them properly.

Agreed that the Goofy short should have been Academy, not 1.85 (actually, the original prints are protected for 1.77 or maybe 1.66, but obviously this is lost in the scope conversion).

Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 12-27-2007, 07:05 AM:

I think you guys are pushing the nostalgia factor a bit much. I don't think many (any?) people in the regular audience are going to appreciate a throwback to Academy aspect ratios.

Anyhow, it just seems to me that if you have a scope feature, you should have a scope short. Lifted was scope, wasn't it?

(Of course, clearly audiences don't seem to care about leterboxed/windowboxed trailers, so I guess the point is moot. Though I saw a new failure recently, where a local theatre started the movie, set the masking to the first trailer, and left; unfortunately it was a flat movie and that was a letterboxed scope trailer, so most things thereafter projected 18 inches above and below the screen onto the masking...)

--jhawk

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 12-27-2007, 08:26 AM:

Lifted was scope but hard matted to 1.85 ratio.

Disney made sure with Enchanted there's no way to leave in the masking until the move to scope.