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Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 01-24-2008, 03:52 PM:
 
This begs the question: What is your favorite 007 title?

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'Quantum of Solace' is latest Bond film
By JILL LAWLESS, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 29 minutes ago

Bond is back — and he wants revenge.

Producers have revealed some of the secrets about the latest James Bond film, due for release later this year, including the inner turmoil that drives its suave superagent hero and its title: "Quantum of Solace."

As titles go, it's not as mellifluous as "From Russia With Love" or "Goldfinger." But Daniel Craig, returning as Bond after 2006's "Casino Royale," says he likes it.

"It has grown on me," Craig told reporters on the film's set at Pinewood Studios near London on Thursday. "It doesn't trip off the tongue. But why should it?"

Producer Michael G. Wilson said the title, chosen only a few days ago, was taken from a story by Bond creator Ian Fleming that appears in the collection "For Your Eyes Only."

Craig said Fleming defined a quantum of solace — it means, roughly, a measure of comfort — as "that spark of niceness in a relationship that if you don't have, you might as well give up."

Filming began earlier this month at Pinewood, the franchise's home since the 1960s. It's a direct sequel to 2006's "Casino Royale," beginning an hour after that film ends, with Bond devastated by his betrayal by true love Vesper Lynd.

"He had his heart broken at the end of the last movie and that certainly is a spur for him in this one," Craig said.

"I'd be lying if I said there wasn't revenge in his heart. But it's more than that. That spurs him on, but that's not what the movie is. It's not a revenge movie. It's about him figuring a few things out."

Producer Barbara Broccoli said the film, directed by Marc Forster ("Monster's Ball," "The Kite Runner"), mixes Bond's "inner turmoil" with action — and of course gadgets — as he tries to stop a shadowy cabal trying to bring down the world economy.

Craig's second Bond adventure continues in the gritty vein of "Casino Royale," in which a rough-edged 007, newly granted his "license to kill," bled, sweat and felt real emotion. But Wilson promised it also has "twice as much action" as its predecessor.

"It's pretty jam-packed," he said.

Filming began at Pinewood three weeks ago. Location shooting will take place in Italy, Austria, Panama, Chile and Peru.

Mathieu Amalric is a new addition as villain Dominic Greene. But the French actor, star of the Oscar-nominated "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," won't be sporting a trademark tic like many of his predecessors.

He and Forster decided his villainy should come from within.

"That's maybe what is horrible about today," Amalric said. "We can't guess who the villains are. The villains are invisible."

Amalric said he modeled his character to some extent on former Prime Minister Tony Blair and French President Nicolas Sarkozy.

"I've been taking details, the smile of Tony Blair, the craziness of Sarkozy, he's the worst villain we've ever had," he said.

Bond may find solace — producers are coy — in the arms of two Bond Girls — Ukrainian Olga Kurylenko as a feisty Bolivian named Camille and Gemma Arterton as an MI6 agent named Fields.

"In the movie, he is obviously still attached to his past," said Kurylenko. "The appearance of this new girl might divert him. Or, it might not."

Craig, who overcame public skepticism — a blond Bond? — to win rave reviews for "Casino Royale," said he still felt nervous about the role.

"All the fear I felt before is still there," he said.

"This is a $200 million movie, and it's James Bond. We have to make it great."



 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-24-2008, 05:47 PM:
 
Somehow I don't see "Quantum of Solace" taking a place along the great Bond titles. But who knows?

In case you need a list to pick from here are all the Bond films.

Dr. No
From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
Thunderball
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Diamonds Are Forever
Live and Let Die
The Man with the Golden Gun
The Spy Who Loved Me
Moonraker
For Your Eyes Only
Octopussy
Never Say Never Again
A View to a Kill
The Living Daylights
Licence to Kill
GoldenEye
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World Is Not Enough
Die Another Day
Casino Royale

[ 01-25-2008, 08:48 PM: Message edited by: Mike Blakesley ]
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 01-24-2008, 06:12 PM:
 
Moonraker is still the best because there are a surplus of space shuttles ready to go at any given time. If the airport metal detector goes off, all you have to do is smile and they will let you pass.
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 01-24-2008, 07:31 PM:
 
Favorite 007 film titles? I'm not sure. But Quantum of Solace definitely ranks as a least favorite title. MGM/UA/Sony will have to plaster that "007" logo all over every piece of marketing material because that Quantum of Solace doesn't give out a Bond vibe at all.

From Russia With Love has a certain humorous quality to it considering the context of the story.
 
Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 01-24-2008, 09:34 PM:
 
Quantum of Solace sounds like a metaphysical Sci fi flick. I like Octopussy the best I think, because it's sort of a "wink wink" title, which pretty much sums up Moore's take on Bond.
 
Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 01-24-2008, 09:51 PM:
 
I still fondly remember Bambi and Thumper from "Diamonds are Forever". These were the 2 wrestler chicks who were guarding Jimmy Dean to keep him from escaping..
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 01-25-2008, 01:25 AM:
 
I hope Scott Bakula is in it.
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 01-25-2008, 07:52 AM:
 
I'd like to hear Carly Simon throw 'Quantum Of Solace' into the opening song. She managed to get 'The Spy Who Loved Me' in...but this is a real challenge.

Maybe they should ask Madonna to do it again. She can throw any stupid lyric into a song. [puke]
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-25-2008, 09:25 AM:
 
Nobody ever uses the words "quantom" or "solace" in conversation. I'll bet people will be saying, "When's 'Quantity of Silence' coming?"
 
Posted by Jonathan Worthing (Member # 803) on 01-25-2008, 09:28 AM:
 
quote: Mike Blakesley
In case you need a list to pick from here are all the Bond films
WHAT ABOUT

NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN

The rogue title that never gets counted as a Bond film.

& the first Casino Royale
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 01-25-2008, 09:31 AM:
 
Although I though NSNA was good, it's not an EON production and assume those are what most'd refer to as the 'real' Bond films.

The original 'Casino Royale' can hardly even qualify as a movie let alone a Bond film. Torture, yes...Bond film, non.
 
Posted by Jonathan Worthing (Member # 803) on 01-25-2008, 10:16 AM:
 
Yes I do agree the film was as bad a dog [bs] on a pizza.

But it is still a Bond film.

As is NSNA

You can not do a comparison of all the films, if you do not include all the films bad or good. No matter who produces them.
 
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 01-25-2008, 10:32 AM:
 
As far as titles go I liked the Connery remake of Thunderball called "Never Say Never Again" the movie was only fair and it lacked the music (or even good music) but it had the real Bond!
 
Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 01-25-2008, 10:47 AM:
 
NSNA was pretty good action wise and all that, and the makeup artists did a great job blending in Connery's toupee and keeping it on his head at all times.
 
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 01-25-2008, 10:55 AM:
 
Connery had a toupee from about Thunderball on! The underwater shots of Connery his toupee was umm well didn't look right they should have put a cap on him underwater! The film wasn't what they wanted it to be and Connery said he was satisfied with the film but it wasn't the film they outlined! The guy that wrote it and Thunderball has 11 more scripts of the same damn film. He tried to remake it one more time but the courts said no!

I liked the fellow that had the role of Q in it! Now don't come down on me I like the real Q as well.
 
Posted by Bill Gabel (Member # 1105) on 01-25-2008, 11:16 AM:
 
I vote for "On Her Majesty's Secret Service".

You have Telly Savalas as Blofeld. Who loves ya, baby?
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-25-2008, 11:25 AM:
 
I edited the list to include "Never Say Never Again." I agree that while it's not among the "official" Bond films, it's still a James Bond 007 film and deserves to be on the list.

There's no need to add the other Casino Royale because the thread starter asked "what's your favorite Bond TITLE," not what movie is your favorite.
 
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 01-25-2008, 11:39 AM:
 
Mike no one could like the original film Casino Royal the TV program wasn't bad but you can't do a bond story in 30 minutes and he was American and well it just wasn't really bond!
 
Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 01-25-2008, 01:25 PM:
 
quote: Ron Funderburg
The guy that wrote it and Thunderball has 11 more scripts of the same damn film. He tried to remake it one more time but the courts said no!
Actually, the court said yes and that was the problem. Kevin McClory owned the remake rights to Thunderball and Thunderball only. The court said he could remake it all he wants, but he could not deviate from the existing story. Since all he could do was change character names and locales, he was not able to raise the money to produce any additional remakes after NSNA. This is also what killed his animated James Bond cartoon show project in early 1990's. I still remember the full page Varitey adds promoting this upcoming (but never happened) cartoon series.
 
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 01-25-2008, 01:34 PM:
 
I thought he could remake the two scripts that had been made but not the 9 scripts that hadn't. As the 9 scripts had 4 or 5 different plots, but then that was 15 to 17 years ago I could be all wet!
 
Posted by Hillary Charles (Member # 769) on 01-25-2008, 03:49 PM:
 
Sean Connery looked younger and more fit in "Never Say Never Again" than he did in "Diamonds Are Forever" 12 years earlier.

They may not try to fit the title of this new one into the theme song. Back in 1983, I was eager to learn what the title song to "Octopussy" would be like. Personally I like the song, but was terribly dissapointed that there was no attempt to use the title in the song. [Frown]

DEVO would have been able to do it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Michael Coate (Member # 757) on 01-25-2008, 07:35 PM:
 
quote: Mike Blakesley
I edited the list to include "Never Say Never Again."
Mike...minor correction suggestion: Since it appears you listed the films in their production order, "Never Say Never Again" should be positioned between "Octopussy" and "A View To A Kill."
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-25-2008, 08:49 PM:
 
OK, fixed.
 
Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 01-25-2008, 09:23 PM:
 
Ah...View to a Kill. I ran that first run in 1985. Roger Moore's last Bond film, thank God.
My favorite scene is where the gal (I forgot her name and am too lazy to look it up) is on top of a hill yelling "James!" when the blimp comes up behind her and she is scooped up into it. [Smile]
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 01-25-2008, 09:58 PM:
 
Tanya 'I cannot act for the life of me but hey look at my tits' Roberts.

Seriously...if she said 'JAMES!' one more time I was going to turn off the projector. [puke]
 
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 01-25-2008, 10:09 PM:
 
Oh James was bad but the screaming she did!!! Just kill her for god's sake Bond and say she was one of those you just couldn't save!
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 01-25-2008, 11:07 PM:
 
quote: Mike Blakesley
I don't see "Quantum of Solace" taking a place along the great Bond titles.
I suppose I'll warm up to it. Love Daniel Craig, though, and can't wait to see it.
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 09-24-2008, 10:23 PM:
 
Another Way To Die is the name of the theme to 'Quantum Of Solace'...it may grow on me, but I doubt it. As it stands at this point in history, this song's right up there with Madonna's.

That is four [bs] out of [bs] [bs] [bs] [bs] [puke]
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 09-25-2008, 12:13 AM:
 
quote: John Wilson
Tanya 'I cannot act for the life of me but hey look at my tits' Roberts.
I have a vintage issue of Playboy featuring a pictorial of her.

Anyway, the real reason for this post is just to call attention to the 2nd trailer for Quantum of Solace. Pretty good clip. It certainly makes the movie look more promising. I'm not sure what to think of James Bond being seen in so many scenes using a Sig Sauer P226 -his guns are usually a Walther model. Mathieu Amalric seems well cast as a rich guy Bond villain.

Another Way to Die, I don't like that tune. 7 Nation Army is the only White Stripes song I liked. This song just doesn't work. The clichéd sounding trumpets and grungy/sloppy guitar work go together about as well as vanilla ice cream topped with wads of hair clippings from the barber shop floor. Ugh.
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 09-25-2008, 10:54 AM:
 
Eh, I didn't care for the tune, either. They don't make 'em like they used to.
quote: Mitchell Dvoskin
This is also what killed his animated James Bond cartoon show project in early 1990's.
There was a "James Bond, Jr." cartoon in the early 90s. I used to run it at the TV station I worked back then.
 
Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 09-25-2008, 11:06 AM:
 
Here's a fun game: go to the Merriam-Webster word of the day site and pick any random two words and join them with any conjunction, you'll have a new Bond title at least as good as Quantum of Solace. Try it! I think this may be how they came up with this title too!

Also, I hate Bond movies. I liked them when I was a kid, but then I watched Live and Let Die, and that 13 minute boat chase scene opened my eyes. Now I hate them.
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 09-25-2008, 02:10 PM:
 
Opened your eyes to what? That movies aren't real? [Razz]
 
Posted by Christian Appelt (Member # 1067) on 09-25-2008, 05:31 PM:
 
In the late 1980s, German distributors began translating Bond titles more closely. Before, they had either invented a new title or modified the original title so non-english speaking audiences would understand it.

DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER became DIAMANTENFIEBER (Diamond Fever),
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS became DER HAUCH DES TODES (Touch/Breath of Death)
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY became IN TÖDLICHER MISSION (Deadly Mission)
A VIEW TO A KILL became IM ANGESICHT DES TODES (Facing Death)

When they translated the original titles almost verbatim, this gave some unpleasant results because each language has its distinct character.

TOMORROW NEVER DIES has a nice rhythm, its direct translation DER MORGEN STIRBT NIE appears somehow clumsy to German ears. Just like STIRB AN EINEM ANDEREN TAG for DIE ANOTHER DAY.

But never have I seen audiences remain so silent after a Bond preview trailer like after the title EIN QUANTUM TROST (Quantum of Solace) appeared on the screen. This must be the dullest and least exciting title ever used for a Bond movie, no matter what Mr Craig thinks. He is paid well enough to like any title they come up with. [Smile]
 
Posted by Brian Guckian (Member # 1678) on 09-25-2008, 07:42 PM:
 
LOL - the producers will have the last laugh...since clearly the obligatory pre-credits sequence must be set in the new Large Hadron Collider facility in Switzerland!!!!

(INT. LARGE HADRON COLLIDER DAY)
Bond confronts stock-in-trade deranged BOND VILLAIN
BOND VILLAIN: "So Meester Bond - now your distinguished career comes to an end!"
A FIGHT ensues. Shortly, Bond THROWS BOND VILLAIN INTO the particle accelerator and throws a switch! BOND VILLAIN is accelerated to close to the speed of light and is vapourised!
BOND: "And they say speed kills"

"Quantum" of Solace - geddit [Big Grin]
 




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