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Posted by Kurt Zupin (Member # 2751) on 01-01-2009, 02:24 AM:
 
This was freaking great!! Great work Brad and Joe, as well as everyone else involved. I was falling off the couch laughing so hard. This was great to come home from the theatre and see this. Also Happy Birthday Film-Tech.

[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] Good Job everyone involved.
 
Posted by Dwayne Benallie (Member # 4443) on 01-01-2009, 02:40 AM:
 
I love the video, funny!!! i woke up my house mates with my laughter LOL
 
Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 01-01-2009, 03:22 AM:
 
Are you guys sure you only just started offering that? I have seen evidence of some of these advanced techniques on a number of second run prints before.
 
Posted by Jennifer Pan (Member # 2035) on 01-01-2009, 03:39 AM:
 
Wow, watching that makes me miss you guys and the good old days. [beer]
 
Posted by Ben Wales (Member # 92) on 01-01-2009, 04:36 AM:
 
Great & Funny Video, well done Guys [Smile]

Happy New Year everyone on Film-Tech.
 
Posted by Damien Taylor (Member # 4255) on 01-01-2009, 07:43 AM:
 
The representation of CIR users as being dimwitted alcoholics was surprisingly accurate. I congratulate the entire NeuCreuŽ on this attention to detail.
 
Posted by Tyler Potts (Member # 4952) on 01-01-2009, 08:33 AM:
 
It's 9:30am and I'm visiting the parents, sitting at the breakfast table with a cup of tea and cereal... 1:30 pops up where the print starts sliding off the platter and I'm yelling, "noNoNONO!" at the laptop.
 
Posted by Sam Graham (Member # 2889) on 01-01-2009, 09:25 AM:
 
That was brilliant. With just the knowledge I learned in the video, I'm running down to Carmike and applying RIGHT NOW!
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 01-01-2009, 10:22 AM:
 
I laughed pretty hard watching the video. Loved the thing about using a hole puncher to splice film together.

How long did it take to shoot the video for the piece?
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 01-01-2009, 11:00 AM:
 
Joe is a good editor. His timing is always great.

Among others, my big laugh came on the shot of the oil halfway up the Simplex gear cover. [rofl]
 
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 01-01-2009, 11:57 AM:
 
Excellent video guys! It should get the Kodak Lifetime Achievement Award for sure.

Don't laugh Tim... Thats something that actually happened to me! At Ski Time Cinema in Ketchum, ID. The assistant manager kept adding opil because she couldn't see the level comming up on the internal round oil sight window. It actually ran that way for several months until my next service checkup and I found it. It prooves that the new Simplex's with all the added "O Rings" really do seal up pretty well... there was very minimum seepage on the film side... nothing to indicate all the oil was in there. One of the three things Wrong did right!

Mark
 
Posted by Jonathan Althaus (Member # 5042) on 01-01-2009, 12:19 PM:
 
Awesome video and a great way to ring in 09
 
Posted by Allison Parsons (Member # 2728) on 01-01-2009, 12:59 PM:
 
[thumbsup] GREAT! I knew I had to watch it when the still image is of Joe pointing a finger at me. I forget who it was, but whomever got to throw the can off the roof was a very lucky man, there's been many o' times I would have loved to do that. [Razz]

If I sign up for your seminars, will you make more videos please? hehe Thanks for starting my year off to a good laugh!

Oh, and what lucky theater got to have their Simplex flooded with oil?
 
Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 01-01-2009, 01:01 PM:
 
quote: Allison Parsons
but whomever got to throw the can off the roof was a very lucky man, there's been many o' times I would have loved to do that.

It looks close to the QSC video in which they throw a QSC power amp off the roof of QSC... even the buildings have some similarity.

Mark
 
Posted by John Hawkinson (Member # 1135) on 01-01-2009, 01:32 PM:
 
That was Film-Tech's own Josh Jones!
Tell us about the SFX/VFX[,] guys!

--jhawk
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 01-01-2009, 01:40 PM:
 
Joe's and Brad's direction and Joe's (as usual) editing and sound mix are spot on the money!

Not to sound like a PC yahoo, but KuDOS to both!

GREAT music! Who/What is the title/artist?

BTW: I LUV the biz at door 205... "TWIRLING & DANCE TRAINING"...sign me up!

My favorite bits are the SIMPLEX OIL LEVEL and Josh shooting the film shipping container...too funny!

Great job to all involved!

[ 01-01-2009, 02:42 PM: Message edited by: Phil Hill ]
 
Posted by Dominic Espinosa (Member # 2122) on 01-01-2009, 01:49 PM:
 
Ah, booth comedy. I love it! Good video, all!

The sad fact is that if we all pitched in our stories we'd probably find that just about everything in that video has actually been done.
In fact I recall someone posting (possibly in the "you suck" thread) about a repertory print they were building up that cut them during inspection due to a splice made with a staple.

And then there's the time I actually saw someone breaking down a film without a ring.
It was a print of signs and as I was making the rounds coming on shift I noticed from the other end of the booth the print wasn't centered...Came over just be foreit slid off the platter and stopped the "projectionist" who didn't know why it was shifting!
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-01-2009, 02:08 PM:
 
quote: Dominic Espinosa
The sad fact is that if we all pitched in our stories we'd probably find that just about everything in that video has actually been done.
Sadly much of the ideas did come from things we have seen done in booths.

quote:
Tell us about the SFX/VFX[,] guys!
Special effects? What special effects? Joe, there weren't any special effects were there?
 
Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 01-01-2009, 02:44 PM:
 
..but true: the famous classic "tornado" that a STRONG platter can easily create..

Heard a story from one tech where an XL case was completely filled with oil - owner didn't know anything about the requirements of what an XL needs.

Knew of one theatre that doing bulb alignment HAD to be done with the door opened.....

It was an old CH-20 console with all the safeties removed with bulb controls on the back were long damaged, the company owner who had this theatre had no remorse on such safety factors..and it was "total" fun doing lateral bulb alignments with a 2k bulb blaring away where you gotta work at.

Yep, truly a classic to see this! Excellent all the way! Brings back some memories of what I've seen in booths that I've visited ..and I had to walk away since I couldn't tell them how it's really supposed to be..

-Monte

[ 01-01-2009, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: Monte L Fullmer ]
 
Posted by Jon Miller (Member # 163) on 01-01-2009, 04:08 PM:
 
Burning question...do staples from OfficeMax really work better than Staples' staples? [Smile]

Great video and a happy new year and happy 10th Anniversary to F-T! [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 01-01-2009, 04:18 PM:
 
Oh, I thought Scott's bit was very funny, too! I LOL! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 01-01-2009, 05:03 PM:
 
Great stuff! Is it true that this will up for the Silver Dildo Award at the Tijuana Film Festival this year?
 
Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 01-01-2009, 05:49 PM:
 
Wonderful! Loved the EQ. (Saw this in Dolby's screening room at _______________________convention. I manned the booth. Sold a bunch of Dolby CP-50's.) Louis
 
Posted by Allison Parsons (Member # 2728) on 01-01-2009, 06:42 PM:
 
Maybe this will be my new background photo on my computer [Big Grin]

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Posted by Louis Belloisy (Member # 3836) on 01-01-2009, 07:38 PM:
 
Absolutely hilarous. great job. i would love to fling some of those cans off the roof also. [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

louis
 
Posted by Don Furr (Member # 1469) on 01-01-2009, 09:26 PM:
 
LMAO...that was too funny. Thanks for a good show!!
 
Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 01-01-2009, 09:35 PM:
 
quote: Allison Parsons
Maybe this will be my new background photo on my computer
Oh, yes! I LOVED that! HAhahahaa!

Phil, you funny. [Razz] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 01-02-2009, 12:06 AM:
 
Hilarious is all I have to say.

Oh to be in a booth again...

AJG
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 01-02-2009, 12:41 AM:
 
Thanks Allison for posting that "flattering" pic of me... [Roll Eyes]

(That sequence is reason #23 why I hate Brad) [Razz] [Wink]

I LUV to lick things I love... I'm a film guy ya know! YUM! [beer]
 
Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 01-02-2009, 03:40 AM:
 
I laughed my ass off.

Had to watch it twice.

Going out to buy a hand gun to keep in the booth for when we have those 'hard to open' film cans.

<For those of you reading this post that work at a corporate office somewhere, I made a joke, if you don't know what a joke is - look it up!>

Happy New Year!!! [beer]
 
Posted by Alan Plester (Member # 852) on 01-02-2009, 04:07 AM:
 
I havn`t laughed so much in ages, really well put together,should be used as mandatory training to all newbies, please make more. happy new year
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 01-02-2009, 09:35 AM:
 
I'm glad everyone likes it and we'd definitely like to make more, it's always just a matter of finding the time. A great thanks to everyone who was willing to appear onscreen for this! Definite fun times making this one.
 
Posted by Alan Gouger (Member # 543) on 01-02-2009, 10:49 AM:
 
Hilarious. Thanks to everyone who put their time into this it was great. Caught me off guard, I was expecting the real deal [Smile]

I got a kick out of the screen door for that digital look and the Vaseline to achieve pixel blend.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 01-02-2009, 11:34 AM:
 
quote: Brad Miller
Sadly much of the ideas did come from things we have seen done in booths.
Sadly, I can relate a couple of those things I have witnessed too. A guy who used to run a drive-in here used masking tape and staples to splice film when he ran out of splice cement. Fortunately, they are no longer in business.

I think the only ones I have done myself are some the methods used for opening film cans....gotta get creative sometimes!

Great video guys. I wasn't expecting to see so many of the film-techers in there. I'll bet there was a huge wrap party, eh?
 
Posted by Benny Walters (Member # 4894) on 01-02-2009, 11:54 AM:
 
Great Video Guys!

I had to pick myself of the floor from laughing so hard to post. I can't wait to show the rest of the booth staff.

Kudos and Happy New Years to everyone at F-T.
[thumbsup]
 
Posted by Mitchell Dvoskin (Member # 751) on 01-02-2009, 12:13 PM:
 
Personally, I prefer C4 plastic explosives to open those old film cans, but other than that, I found the promo filled with useful information. It would never have occurred to me to use staples to splice film. Thank you Film-Tech for all the helpful advice. [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Jennifer Pan (Member # 2035) on 01-02-2009, 12:14 PM:
 
I'm still wondering why this didn't get done back in 2003. [Razz]
 
Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 01-02-2009, 02:04 PM:
 
Loved it! I would like to say I have only seen any of this stuff on the video, except I don't like to fib!
 
Posted by Hillary Charles (Member # 769) on 01-02-2009, 02:16 PM:
 
FILM DONE FUNNY! [thumbsup]

Love the whole thing. Everyone did a great job! Great background music, too!
 
Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 01-02-2009, 02:20 PM:
 
GREAT! More. I hope everybody appreciates how much time and work it took.
 
Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 01-02-2009, 03:12 PM:
 
quote: Dominic Espinosa
In fact I recall someone posting (possibly in the "you suck" thread) about a repertory print they were building up that cut them during inspection due to a splice made with a staple.

That might have been me..it was a 70mm print of Howard's End (or was it Hamlet?) that I was building up at the Royal in West L.A...the chief projectionist was sitting in his chair laughing at me as I was running the film between my fingers off the MUT..he stopped laughing when I showed him the staples. And they were the heavy box staples, not the wussy paper ones. [Smile]

That video's sooo freakin funny..great job guys!!!
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 01-02-2009, 03:13 PM:
 
Please upload the Film-Tech training promo to YouTube for many more to enjoy...
 
Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 01-02-2009, 03:30 PM:
 
Excellent idea Phil!! [beer] [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 01-02-2009, 06:49 PM:
 
You all HAVE seen this video's predecessors...right?

Film-Tech Training Video

Film-Tech Advanced Training Video

I think the mere Advanced training was best, personally. Though Phil licking the film was pretty funny stuff.

Steve

[ 01-02-2009, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: Steve Guttag ]
 
Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 01-03-2009, 04:15 AM:
 
quote: Jennifer Pan
I'm still wondering why this didn't get done back in 2003.
It did, its just taken this long for Brad to post it [Smile] .

Nice work guys, very funny.
 
Posted by Jason Black (Member # 684) on 01-03-2009, 12:19 PM:
 
Ab So Flippin Lutely Great!

It's amazing that these training video is so funny given my absence from the theatre industry for going on 4 years now.

Great job to all involved.. especially 'Ol Cootzilla!
 
Posted by Jonathan Althaus (Member # 5042) on 01-03-2009, 01:12 PM:
 
Why do I feel the urge to take some old film, throw it off the roof, scratch it up with a key, splice it together with staples, and then run it thru our Simplex's with a few gallons of oil?
 
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 01-03-2009, 03:41 PM:
 
Because you earned your certificate of completion?
 
Posted by Jonathan Althaus (Member # 5042) on 01-03-2009, 06:15 PM:
 
Must have. Still, that 8 yr old print sitting in the corner is looking mighty appealing.....
 
Posted by Tyler Potts (Member # 4952) on 01-03-2009, 09:23 PM:
 
I want to show this to the rest of my projectionists... but I know a few of them would end up trying some of these stupid things. The theatre I started at I had a guy train me to lick the film to find the emulsion (I never did, and hope that dies with him).

Can someone explain the THX portion? I've seen our booth tech come in and test levels with our Dolbys with his laptop filled with sliders and EQs and white/pink/lavender noise levels... but that is that odd microphone device actually a tool? Or some jab at THX that I'm not getting?

And I wish I could order Jack Daniels as easily as Film Guard to keep on my build table.
 
Posted by Wayne Keyser (Member # 2420) on 01-03-2009, 09:56 PM:
 
Showed it to my kid who's in film school - he said he'll save a lot of money on equipment if he goes ahead and buys a screen door to use while shooting.
 
Posted by Robert LaValley (Member # 4319) on 01-03-2009, 10:32 PM:
 
That video was really cool! Good job guys. Brought back alot of war-story memories from myself and alot of techs I've talked to over the years. Funny stuff!

[beer]
 
Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 01-04-2009, 07:50 AM:
 
Hi Guys !

Really Great video I was so lauthing will I watching it. Dammn good Job !

I have just a question: What is the name and model of the microphone multiplexer witch used in this funny video to "equalising" the auditorium ?

Sometimes I saw some professionnals instalers who just put a microphone and the RTA on the port windows and doin the eq this way :-(

I wish all the best to everyonne for the year 2009 and appologyzes for my really sittl weak English;-)

Jean-Michel Grin
 
Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 01-04-2009, 11:19 AM:
 
It was the D2 analyzer system...which can be used for THX recertifications.
 
Posted by Jean-Michel Grin (Member # 1360) on 01-04-2009, 11:28 AM:
 
Thanks steeve for Your Answer !

Best regards.

Jean-Michel Grin
 
Posted by Richard P. May (Member # 3598) on 01-04-2009, 12:08 PM:
 
Seeing the cans tossed off the roof brought back memories of this actually happening. Back in the very dark ages, there were five reel cases (ugh), even though rarely used. One of the theater circuits headquartered in Oklahoma City had their own delivery trucks. When they got a five-reeler from an exchange, they would drop them off the roof of their four story building to damage them beyond future use.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-04-2009, 12:46 PM:
 
The point of the THX bit wasn't aimed specifically at THX, but making the point that the entire purpose of EQing an auditorium is to calibrate the system to the specific speakers used and the room acoustics. By measuring the sound coming out of that little 4 inch speaker, in essence the system would be "calibrated" to the booth monitor...and not what the audience hears. That is why the Dolby EQ sliders are all maxed out at the low and high frequencies, because those frequencies are not properly reproduced by the booth monitor and the sliders are (incorrectly) being turned up to compensate. As such in tuning the auditorium in this manner, it makes the EQ much, much, much worse than doing nothing at all. Its just more techie dry humor in action.
 
Posted by Gerard S. Cohen (Member # 994) on 01-04-2009, 01:57 PM:
 
I really enjoyed seeing our Film-tech stars (or guys from central casting) "live" or in motion, because from years of viewing their portraits as stills, I was shocked!

Thanks for a job well done!
 
Posted by Rachel Craven (Member # 1016) on 01-04-2009, 04:07 PM:
 
That was RIDICULOUSLY AWESOME! lol
 
Posted by Betsie Beadling (Member # 591) on 01-04-2009, 07:54 PM:
 
Joe and Phil Hill
are the best part!!!! [thumbsup]
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 01-05-2009, 03:09 PM:
 
Great job boys! [thumbsup]
quote: Phil Hill
Please upload the Film-Tech training promo to YouTube for many more to enjoy...
quote: Tony Bandiera Jr
Excellent idea Phil!!
Brad, are you OK with that? I have them ready to go if you are.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-05-2009, 10:32 PM:
 
We will take care of that in due time.
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 01-06-2009, 04:30 AM:
 
As you wish...
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 01-06-2009, 08:31 AM:
 
John, thank you for asking before proceeding. That shows class.
 
Posted by Damien Taylor (Member # 4255) on 01-06-2009, 10:22 AM:
 
Who's prints were sacrificed, or don't ask?
 
Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 01-06-2009, 10:28 AM:
 
If the answer is "don't ask" then it seems a little too late.

And I assume it's simply some print that was never going to be picked up. For instance, anywhere that regularly gets bollywood fare tends to have stacks of prints that'll never be returned.
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 01-06-2009, 02:11 PM:
 
It was a bunch of old IB Technicolor prints that were laying around an old classic single screen theater we did the un-installation for. We ran a reel or two and the prints looked great, no smell, scratches or anything. The damn things were literally like new, but we figured they were so old nobody would ever want to run them again. I mean it's just crappy old prints, right?

Or then again maybe it was just lab defect reels from several year old shitty movies that never got picked up assembled to look like a print.
 
Posted by Damien Taylor (Member # 4255) on 01-06-2009, 04:12 PM:
 
quote: Chris Slycord
If the answer is "don't ask" then it seems a little too late.
quote: Brad Miller
It was a bunch of old IB Technicolor prints
Well played good gents.
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 01-06-2009, 04:16 PM:
 
And I thought the visual of the prints falling off the platter was CGI. Should only take a couple seconds worth of typing gibberish onto a Mac keyboard to make that happen -just like they do in the movies.
[Razz]
 
Posted by Jeremy Fuentes (Member # 2135) on 01-13-2009, 02:30 AM:
 
That was pretty damn funny. Havent posted in probably a couple years, just thought I'd check back in here. I gotta say I wish I'd been able to be part of the video. [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Brian Guckian (Member # 1678) on 01-17-2009, 04:57 PM:
 
Brilliant work!

"What are these blue things for?" - LOL

Keep 'em coming [thumbsup]
 
Posted by Wayne Keyser (Member # 2420) on 01-19-2009, 11:23 PM:
 
I thought the reels you sacrificed were, maybe, old black-and-white movies. Nobody wants to see it unless it's in color, right? Or maybe they were those subtitled ones, who goes to the movies to read?
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 08-11-2009, 03:34 PM:
 
So, when is the next booth training seminar and where...Rockwall, Plano, or Denver ?
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-11-2009, 07:07 PM:
 
Preferably Denver!
 
Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 08-11-2009, 09:13 PM:
 
Albuquerque, New Mexico. Martha is going to be in it!
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 08-11-2009, 10:12 PM:
 
I vote for Sydney. You guys could all use the trip as a tax expense. [Cool]
 
Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 08-11-2009, 11:13 PM:
 
Can we sleep on your couch?
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 08-11-2009, 11:22 PM:
 
I see a common theme with you Adam. [Wink]
 
Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 08-12-2009, 07:35 AM:
 
quote: Our Grand-Poopie-BAH
Martha is going to be in it!
You mean Ms. Martha is going to leave her luxuriant home in Acapulco Mexico and her sleep-in hhot 19 y/o BF just to be a participant and a *STAR* in your filming?

*Holy Shit! I'm impressed!*
 




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