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Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-05-2009, 08:19 PM:

Do you know how many times I see people post "alot" around here?

A lot.

[Smile]

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-05-2009, 08:26 PM:

How about "to" instead of "too." I don't see "two" misused as much.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-05-2009, 08:32 PM:

There's usually a comma before "too", too.

Oh, and many people desperately need to learn how to spell "desperately". See that? Desperate. Most people seem to want to spell it with an A where the second E is. Only one A. Just one. That's it.

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 04-05-2009, 08:44 PM:

A lot of folks also spell "quiet" online as "quite." And how about the unnecessary use of apostrophe's? I even see this in printed ad's when people are selling "new car's" and thing's like that. You'd think that people who produce advertisement's and/or sign's professionally would know better.

But I'm especially annoyed when people abbreviate online, assuming that I know exactly what they mean whenever they refer to a movie as TWINE or STFC or LOTRTFOTR. I don't get it. Is it so hard to at least spell out ONE word from a title like that so that anyone outside of your own head can figure out what you mean? Lazy idiots -- er, I mean, lazy idiot's -- er, I mean, LI.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-05-2009, 09:48 PM:

I get a little annoyed with spelling mistakes, especially when I make them. Web browsers like Firefox have a built-in spell checker, but they can't spot errors in context with words like "too" or "two." Sometimes typing errors can result a correctly spelled word, but not the word that was intended in the sentence. I had to backspace and correct "words" in a previous sentence because I typed too fast and spit out "worlds" instead. Proof-reading is important. The "edit" button is very handy afterward.

I'm not very hip to chat-room style acronym gibberish -which is one reason I don't spend any time in chat rooms. I don't like text messaging on a cellular phone either. I use a mobile phone to speak to other people. If I wanted to type something I would have sent the person a note via e-mail. We can read whole words in forums like this, and whole words tend to work well in social networking sites like Facebook.

It's a good thing web browsers support a limited number of typefaces. Try imagining someone setting their forum text in a typeface like Hollyweird. Or how about Brush Script in all capitals? It would happen.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-05-2009, 10:20 PM:

What annoys the hell out of me are those people who will be asking you something over about 20 text messages. And to help them it takes LENGTHY responses! So after so many of these I just call them...but they won't answer the phone! They want to do it all over text messages. Ugh. No, I think I've got better things to do with my time than type one sentence via text when I could have said five verbally.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 04-05-2009, 10:41 PM:

My pet peeve is the misuse of the word for the lamphouse/projector douser by calling it "dowser"...you know, as in looking for water using a "divining rod". UGH!

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-05-2009, 10:43 PM:

I know Phil... I post alot around here [Wink]

. And eyve tried to cut back on my posts but withdrawl really gets ya quickly.

NOw lets examine another word. TAke "sound" for example on the front page its spelled sond. WHo on earth would spell it like that??

DOesn't that sticky keyboard cap thing I have going really drive you nuts [Razz]

.

Mark

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-06-2009, 12:43 AM:

Let's not forget about definite and definitely. Do you guys see the letter A in there anywhere? No? That's because it's not supposed to be there! Learn your own language!

Posted by Jarret Chessell (Member # 5077) on 04-06-2009, 01:04 AM:

Get a mac, it spell checks for you while you type. The only thing it doesn't do is sort out homonyms - My mac just helped me spell homonyms [beer]

Posted by Justin Hamaker (Member # 2165) on 04-06-2009, 01:20 AM:

When it comes to informal things like Film-Tech and other on-line forums, I'm not overly particular about proper spelling and grammar - as long as the person makes sense.

quote: Greg Anderson
But I'm especially annoyed when people abbreviate online

Text lingo is the one thing I can't stand! I can't even imagine what it's like for teachers having to grade papers full of text lingo. What bothers me even more is that it's becoming part of the spoken language. When I hear someone actually say "LOL" or "JK", I just want to slap them upside the head.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-06-2009, 01:42 AM:

quote: Joe Redifer
Let's not forget about definite and definitely.

Joe beat me to this one...I think "definitely" is the most misspelled word in the entire Internet, not just on this forum - and tied with "basically" for the most overused word.

I also hate texting. I think it's evil unless it's used for the most basic of messages. I'm currently watching a family member destroy her relationship because she and her boyfriend insist on texting each other all the time, and they keep misinterpreting what the other meant. Just pick up the and call, for Pete's sake. Then you have these idiot kids who are killing people by texting while they're driving.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-06-2009, 01:54 AM:

quote: Jarret Chessell
Get a mac, it spell checks for you while you type.

So macs are for the lesser-educated? [Razz]

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 04-06-2009, 02:32 AM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
Just pick up the and call, for Pete's sake

Odd is that the people I work for will not answer their cels, but when you text them, they answer immediately. I found out that that talking on the telly is wasting their precious time whereas doing the text is part of their multitasking chores.

[Roll Eyes]

.... go figure....

Thus, I learned how to use my fingers on the cel keyboard and be fast at it.

But, if you want to have fun with people who doesn't text, it drives them nuts since they hate it and just rather call.

-Monte

Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 04-06-2009, 06:52 AM:

I'm with Joe on "definitely". But there's a degree to which I'll probably forgive someone for spelling it "definatly", a degree which definitely DOES NOT extend to "prolly". Not spelling the word right is one thing, not knowing the word you're using is another! "Prolly"? Really? Ugh.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-06-2009, 07:03 AM:

I think spelling is another topic and one that I would fail at, badly.

This topic was really about not knowing the word, or in the case of "a lot" that it is two words.

For spelling, I don't spell check most of my posts...too time consuming.

Phil...Dowser is an appropriate spelling, depending on your country. Kinda like the extra "u" in colour or making "z" in to "s" in Equaliser.

Steve

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-06-2009, 07:56 AM:

quote: Steve Guttag
Kinda like the extra "u" in colour or making "z" in to "s" in Equaliser.

Oh no... Now he's opened up a can of worms!!!

Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 04-06-2009, 08:37 AM:

Even if you're from across the pond, "lense" is still archaic. It's "lens" that is correct and common usage.

And don't get me started about the guy named Marshall who works as a marshal in law enforcement. Many people don't know the difference. I find this one of the most common errors printed in newspapers.

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 04-06-2009, 09:31 AM:

That reminds me that I've seen "lens" used as a verb in Hollywood news publications. I've never met anyone in the industry who considers himself a "lenser" and nobody takes credit for "lensing" a movie. Just call him a "D.P." and anyone who cares will know what that means.

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 04-06-2009, 09:32 AM:

I must give my local Hy-Vee grocery store credit for having a sign posted over their express lane stating "12 items or fewer". The "X items or less" thing you see most places is a pet peeve. Go ahead, look for it. You'll see.

Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 04-06-2009, 09:46 AM:

quote: Steve Guttag
For spelling, I don't spell check most of my posts...too time consuming

Accuracy in any endeavor (or endeavour) is time consuming. Accuracy in spelling and grammar is only important if you want to get your point across accurately.

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-06-2009, 09:58 AM:

Wow, what a response! Cool!

And I love it when folks just make words up out of thin air. I don't remember who, but someone coined the word "imparticularly" somewhere on these here forums as a way of saying "in particular". But then, Shakespeare made words up out of thin air, so I guess the creator of that word is in good company.

The funny thing is that if it actually was a word, the rules of the language would dictate that it meant "NOT particularly". But I suppose one could argue that "imparticularly" and "in particular" meant the same thing by sighting the example of "inflammable" and "flammable".

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-06-2009, 10:24 AM:

quote: Greg Anderson
That reminds me that I've seen "lens" used as a verb in Hollywood news publications.

That's a good example of "slanguage" as popularized by Variety. There is a great slanguage dictionary on their site. It's a great read, and it's amazing how many of those words have gone into popular usage.

Check it out

quote: Steve Guttag
Phil...Dowser is an appropriate spelling, depending on your country.

It's spelled that way on our automation control panel. I also learned it that way from my former boss. However, "douser" is probably more correct since it is used to "douse" the light.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-06-2009, 10:30 AM:

I usually chuckle at misspellings and odd usage of the English language on signs, but don't have such a light hearted attitude to piss poor graphic design and common examples of "font murder." Engrish.com is always good for a laugh.

quote: Jim Bedford
Accuracy in spelling and grammar is only important if you want to get your point across accurately.

When my father attended the journalism school at Syracuse University a professor there named Demarest was very tough. He would give an automatic "F" grade for any misspelled word in a project. He didn't cite it as a spelling error, rather he called it an "error in fact." My father said the guy wouldn't stop at the letter "F" on failing papers either. Some students would get a "N" or a "Q." If you screwed up badly enough on one project it could torpedo an entire semester's worth of study. Quite a tight rope to walk.

Somehow I get the impression prestigious journalism schools don't have such militantly high standards today.

[ 04-06-2009, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: Bobby Henderson ]

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-06-2009, 11:20 AM:

I try to spell correctly just because I don't want to look like an idiot. Instead, I let my actions do that for me.

Seriously though, I try to do my best no matter what I am doing. Whether it is writing an essay or posting on a forum, it gets my full effort. The same attitude applies to everything else I do. I do not like mediocrity in any form. You should always do your best with what you have, and I know people can write more gooder if they tried just a bit harder.

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 04-06-2009, 11:34 AM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
Somehow I get the impression prestigious journalism schools don't have such militantly high standards today.

I agree. We live in a world where a journalism student publicly declared "Don't tase me, Bro."

Posted by Robert E. Allen (Member # 1351) on 04-06-2009, 01:12 PM:

I've noticed the spelling errors. But what annoys me even more is people who type in what I assume is "computereese" and don't use the "shift" key to capitalize words that should be capitalized. Does it really take all that much effort or time? For me it makes the message harder to read.

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-06-2009, 01:34 PM:

And another thing....

Is "fleabay" easier to type than "e-bay"?

What about "e-bone"? (I don't even know what that one means.)

Or "fleacebay"?

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 04-06-2009, 02:17 PM:

Let me be the first to say There, They're, Their

oh yeah, it's etc. (et cetera) not ect. (ect etera?)

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 04-06-2009, 02:46 PM:

It is for all intents and purposes, not for all intensive purposes.

quote: Bobby Henderson
Somehow I get the impression prestigious journalism schools don't have such militantly high standards today.

I agree. A few years ago, some students from a journalism class at Columbia sued the school for their money back for that one class. Among other complaints about their instructor, they claimed that at the beginning of the course, he told them not to disclose anything discussed within the class. The idea of a journalism class being told to hush up apparently did not sit too well with some students. It was nationally reported because the instructor's name was Al Gore.

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 04-06-2009, 03:05 PM:

I remember trying to learn what YMMV stood for. Thank goodness for Google.

I also find it fascinating that some of these acronyms are becoming slang in real life. Maybe it is because I'm around students so often, but does anyone ever hear folks using BTW? In its spoken form you say "Bee Tee Dubs".

[Confused]

Cheers,

AJG

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-06-2009, 03:08 PM:

1) When you don't care about something you shouldn't say "I could care less."

2) It's pretty common for people to not understand the difference between "it's" and "its."

3) There's no such word as "supposibly" but that doesn't make people stop writing/saying it.

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 04-06-2009, 03:39 PM:

You guys might enjoy the Grammar Girl Podcast, with "quick and dirty tips for better writing." It's well-done and each episode is refreshingly short. (It might be easier to just search for it in iTunes and receive the episodes automatically.)

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-06-2009, 03:58 PM:

FWIW, YMMV AFAIK. LOL.
[evil]

Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 04-06-2009, 04:09 PM:

Banned.

Posted by Jarret Chessell (Member # 5077) on 04-06-2009, 04:33 PM:

quote: Brad Miller
So macs are for the lesser-educated?

BURN!!! Laugh out loud [Wink]

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 04-06-2009, 07:38 PM:

quote: Joe Redifer
and I know people can write more gooder if they tried just a bit harder.

Ha! Joe, you might not have noticed this, but there is a problem with your sentence above. VERY funny considering what you're talking about.

You should have had a comma between 'can' and 'write'.

Silly.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-06-2009, 09:21 PM:

The time seems right for this:

Mr. Language Person: Idiot's Guide to Englesh
BY DAVE BARRY
(This classic Dave Barry column was originally published June 8, 2003.)

It is time once again for Ask Mister Language Person, the column that provides you with the grammar, punctuation and vocabulary skills you need to verbally crush your opponents like seedless grapes under a hammer.

Today's first language question comes from author Joyce Carol Oates, who writes to ask:

Q. At restaurants, I often order the soup du jour. My question is, what is "jour"?

A. It is a French word meaning "bat spleens."

Q. Speaking of restaurants, can you give an example of pretentious menu language?

A. Yes. We were dining recently with Mrs. Language Person at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables, Fla., and the menu listed the following item, which we are not making up: "Chef's Daily Inspiration of Soup." When the waiter came around, we asked him: "What is the Chef's Daily Inspiration of Soup?" And he answered, quote: "It's the soup of the day."

Q. I have a question about the correct pronunciation of the word "aunt." I say it's pronounced "aunt," but my husband insists that it's "aunt." Who is right? We argue about this all the time! Also I'm pretty sure he's sleeping with his secretary.

A. According to the American Association of English Professors of English, the correct pronunciation is "nuclear."

Q. Like many people, I am troubled by the part of "Humpty Dumpty" that goes: "All the king's horses and all the king's men, couldn't put Humpty together again." Why does it mention horses? Does anybody seriously believe that if a bunch of horses saw a giant egg broken into pieces, their response would be: "Hey! Let's try to reassemble this!"? Also, in "Cinderella," are we really supposed to believe that the prince -- this guy who danced with Cinderella all night and wants to MARRY her -- believes that the only way he can recognize her is to make her TRY ON A SHOE? As if a shoe is some kind of medieval DNA sample? So if Cinderella's foot swells up, the prince is going to say: "Well, you LOOK exactly like the woman I love, but the shoe never lies!"

A. You have given this a lot of thought.

Q. At least once a day, my phone rings, and I answer it, and the person on the other end -- the person who called ME -- starts the conversation by asking: "Who is this?" Is that rude?

A. It most certainly is, because this person is committing the grammatical "faux pas" (literally, "bat spleen") of using a pre-emptive connubial pronoun in an infricative phrase. The proper wording is: "Whom is this?" Or, more formally: "Just exactly whom the heck is this to whom I am speaking to?"

Q. I would like to use the word "synergy" more often. What does it mean?

A. "Synergy" is one of the key words used by business professionals to indicate that they have no clue as to what business they are actually in. ("The Harbingle Organization: A Paradigm of Synergy")

Q. Is it time now for examples of actual language usage sent in by alert readers?

A. Yes.

--Veronica Peterson sent a newspaper ad for a Watertown, N.Y., dental clinic offering "Personalized Dentures."

--Bob Emerick sent an ad for a fundraising dinner in Tampa, Fla., with this headline: "Shaquille O'Neal Attacks Literacy."

--Ed Lacy reports that he saw a sign in the men's room of an Office Depot that said: "EMPLOYEES MUST WASH YOUR HANDS." (Ed writes: "I waited 15 minutes for someone to wash my hands.")

--Susan Tudor sent an article from the Anderson, Ind., Herald Bulletin, headlined: "MINORITIES IN SHORT SUPPLY."

--John Noren sent an informational document from the Internal Revenue Service containing this statement: "The definition of a child living at home is a child who lives at home."

--Bill Belt sent a letter that his elderly mother received from BlueCross BlueShield that begins with this cheerful and personal salutation: "Dear Catastrophic Member:"

--K. Houser sent an article on shark attacks from USA Today, quoting a shark expert as follows: "To have shark attacks, you have to have people together with sharks in the water."

Q. You need BOTH?

A. Yes. To create synergy.

Link (for those who need one)

Posted by Allison Parsons (Member # 2728) on 04-06-2009, 10:32 PM:

Wasn't there a topic somewhere on here about misspelling the word DEFINITELY?

I still think Marley and Me should have been called Marley and I...

I use to have issues spelling Wednesday. Then I thought of it as marrying Mike Nesmith from the Monkeys. WED-NES-DAY. Sounds stupid, but hey, I helped me not to spell it Wedensday.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 04-06-2009, 11:06 PM:

Mike's talking of soup reminds me...

Dumb (or Dumber) to their waitress:

"What's 'Soup de Jour?'?"
"It's the Soup of the Day."
"Mmmm...that sound's great. I'll have that!"

Oh, how we laughed. [Smile]

Posted by Tony Bandiera Jr (Member # 2365) on 04-07-2009, 12:35 AM:

How about :

Gizmachie: A misc. part that you can't remember the proper name of...
Gizinta: The part that mates with the Gizmachie

Rectumfryer: A crappy rectifier (like early Strong switchers)

People who pronounce "Xenon" as X-E-NON instead of "Zee-NON"

Theater (live performance) techs who get their panties in a wad when I say "Xenon Bulb", as their lighting instruments (not Lamps) have Lamps, NOT bulbs. BFD I say.

BFD: Big [sex]

Deal

FUBAR: [sex]

Up Beyond All Recognition

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 04-07-2009, 01:24 AM:

quote: Tony Bandiera Jr
Rectumfryer: A crappy rectifier (like early Strong switchers)

..and they're still crappy and you're stuck with a dead horse when one goes since STRONG doesn't fix them anymore.

Posted by Brian Michael Weidemann (Member # 2243) on 04-07-2009, 04:50 AM:

quote: Allison Parsons
I still think Marley and Me should have been called Marley and I...

Isolated like that, I believe either version is correct. Subject versus object, the title doesn't specify which with any context. Are Marley and I the subject of the movie, or is the movie about the things happening to Marley and me? [Big Grin]

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-07-2009, 09:42 AM:

Agreed with Brian. Besides, "Marley and Me" sounds friendly and cuddly. "Marley and I" sounds like two women talking about going shopping.

Posted by Carey Barber (Member # 1586) on 04-07-2009, 10:13 AM:

Here are two errors that I see often and am surprised have not been mentioned already...

1. Writing "should of" instead of "should've" --- They are trying to contract "should have" --- Frankly, I am not sure that "should've" is a proper contraction anyway.

2. I think the grand champion for misspelled online words is "loose" instead of "lose"

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 04-07-2009, 10:52 AM:

quote:
Q. Like many people, I am troubled by the part of "Humpty Dumpty" that goes: "All the king's horses and all the king's men, couldn't put Humpty together again." Why does it mention horses? Does anybody seriously believe that if a bunch of horses saw a giant egg broken into pieces, their response would be: "Hey! Let's try to reassemble this!"?

Ricky Gervais has a brilliant bit about this in his Out Of England stand-up act. A must see.

Posted by Jarret Chessell (Member # 5077) on 04-07-2009, 11:07 AM:

quote: Carey Barber
I think the grand champion for misspelled online words is "loose" instead of "lose"

That reminds me of something. I'm pretty sure my print of "How to lose a guy in ten days" said "How to loose a guy in ten days" on the heads and tails [Big Grin]

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-07-2009, 11:54 AM:

I saw that one on a few marquees. A recent one I encountered was an inquiry about FilmGuard. The writer said that he was "interested in your produce". (In fairness the e is close to the t, and a spell checker wouldn't have caught it.)

Posted by Janusz Antkiewicz (Member # 5118) on 04-07-2009, 01:15 PM:

As a way of introduction (and a little excuse [Wink]

): I'm no native English speaker so there surely are some grammar/spelling/syntax mistakes in what I'm about to write (though the examples in the posts above certify to the fact that even educated people have problems constructing their speech).

Whatever complaints you've written here, however well-grounded and actually needed they may sound, let's come clear about one thing: you cannot stop the river! Language is constantly evolving, like it or not. What some time ago seemed unthinkable (e.g. "he DON'T")is so common nowadays.

And I'm not judging it: the process is just happening. If you want to communicate effectively you have to learn new thing(like these LOL, ROTFL etc.) to be able to UNDERSTAND. The idea is to get to know what's going on as far as your language is concerned and at the same time appreciate what you value most about the language you use (be it super-correct grammar, sophisticated vocabulary and so on).

[edited because 1 sentence might cause confusion [Smile]

]

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-07-2009, 03:26 PM:

While there's truth to what you say, the other side of the argument would be "If you want to communicate effectively, you should learn how to read, write, and speak correctly."

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 04-07-2009, 05:59 PM:

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-07-2009, 06:06 PM:

Here's another good one. My soon-to-be-ex brother in law just started a Facebook page on which he states:

I was married to the same women for 14 years.

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 04-07-2009, 06:59 PM:

quote: Brad Miller
"interested in your produce"

That reminds me of a coin-op video game I saw that was still in its original shipping box with the words "Producted in Japan" on it.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 04-07-2009, 07:08 PM:

quote: Phil Hill

Phil, there's a lot of truth in what you've said there. Well put.

Posted by Adam Martin (Member # 641) on 04-07-2009, 08:05 PM:

quote: Phil Hill

I think I was driving in that same Michigan blizzard, but you tell the story so much better than I do.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 04-08-2009, 02:09 PM:

Yes guys, I'm a man of few words... [Roll Eyes]

I posted a cleaver comeback to Mike's post on the dowser spelling and it was posted correctly. Then when I went to edit it for a typo, it got all jumbled and unreadable. So I deleted it all. [uhoh]

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 04-08-2009, 02:38 PM:

Here's one I've heard a lot on TV, "Our new car uses three times less fuel than our old car." Or, "Our new computer is five times smaller than the previous model." Somehow, that just doesn't sound right to me from a mathematical perspective. I think I know what they mean but I'm convinced they're not saying it correctly.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-08-2009, 05:06 PM:

quote: Phil Hill
I posted a cleaver comeback

Must have been a cutting remark, eh, Phil? [Big Grin]

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-08-2009, 11:23 PM:

quote: David Stambaugh
That reminds me of a coin-op video game I saw that was still in its original shipping box with the words "Producted in Japan" on it.

For similar weird poorly translated signs from Japan/China, visit www.engrish.com

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-08-2009, 11:42 PM:

Sadly, I believe my reference to the "Engrish" web site back on page 2 of this thread was hardly noticed.

People, get over yourselves. Point your web browser at Engrish and start having some belly laughs at how American pop cultural slang language can be totally butchered. It is a riot. You are screwing yourself if you refuse to take a peek. DO IT!!

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-09-2009, 12:15 AM:

I would go to Engrish.com but I just can't get over myself!

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-09-2009, 01:12 AM:

Hey everyone, a good site to go to for some laughs is www.engrish.com. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet.

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 04-09-2009, 07:52 AM:

Thanks Brad! That site is really funny!

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 04-09-2009, 10:19 AM:

Brad, great link!

Posted by Scott D. Neff (Member # 185) on 04-09-2009, 12:19 PM:

You mean nobody posted it? Not even Bobby?

quote: Bobby Henderson
I usually chuckle at misspellings and odd usage of the English language on signs, but don't have such a light hearted attitude to piss poor graphic design and common examples of "font murder." Engrish.com is always good for a laugh.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 04-09-2009, 06:34 PM:

quote: Brad Miller
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it yet.

Mentioned what?

If you need a really good laugh at this sort of stuff, check out engrish.com

They have lots of funny translations of the English language.

Posted by Bruce Hansen (Member # 281) on 04-09-2009, 07:44 PM:

Ah, this thread is alot of nothing. (Sorry, I couldn't help it).

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-09-2009, 07:54 PM:

I saw one of those groaner construction signs today. "Construction workers. Please give us a brake!"

Do they REALLY have to be so punny? That sort of silliness almost makes me angry...well, at least enough to speed up! [evil]

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-10-2009, 12:17 AM:

I laugh a little at the "My Daddy Works Here" road construction signs. Some of them have a crudely drawn picture of a little kid with some elementary school quality lettering. The sign seems a little ironic. I get the image in my head of some little kid trying to install a home made sign in a dangerous construction zone. What kind of asshole father would let his little girl do that?

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 04-24-2009, 02:23 PM:

To me, there's a big difference between these two statements:

1) All hammers are not created equal.
2) Not all hammers are created equal.

I believe that the second one is usually what people mean when they construct a thought this way. But I keep hearing the first one most of the time in advertising and most other situations.

Posted by Kenneth Wuepper (Member # 1174) on 04-24-2009, 03:07 PM:

Greg,

The statements are well chosen as you have discovered.

1. ALL hammers are not created equal. (no two are equal)

2. NOT ALL hammers are created equal. (Some may be equal)

1. requires a knowledge of all while 2. requires only enough knowledge to say that 2 or more may be equal while 1 other may not be so.

I would not use 1. to describe my product as it would mean that I have NO quality control!

KEN

Posted by Charles Greenlee (Member # 3856) on 04-24-2009, 03:10 PM:

One seems more definitive than the other. "Not all hammers are created equal." makes you wonder "how?", where as the first statment invokes more acceptance. You just think "ok". It also affects your mental scope, or what part of the sentence you're focused on.

Take the phrase "Each and every...." My Aunt hates it. She say's it's redundant. Maybe, but consider the connotation of the words.

Every - encompasses all options, includes all. But connotes no individuality within the group"

Each - Implies individual inclusion amongst the members in the group.

So to say that "I'm going to paint each and every car I see" connotes that I am going to pain all of the cars that I happen upon, but with specific detail to each.

Still may be somewhat redundant, but the difference is in connotation rather than literal meaning.