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Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-30-2009, 02:58 PM:

Well? We have a handful of confirmed cases about five miles from my house. Time for some plastic and duct tape to quarantine my house I guess... or rather quarantine the outside world.

What's going on in your area?

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 04-30-2009, 03:18 PM:

I am concerned about this but I also think it is nothing to worry about. People are blowing this thing way out of proportion.

We have seen flu epidemics and pandemics before. There was the Asian flu in the 50's. There was the Hong Kong flu in the 60's. In the 70's there were outbreaks of swine flu and Russian flu in the 70's. There were several outbreaks of bird flu and variants of Asian flu all throughout the 80's and 90's. The current outbreak of swine flu is just another in a long line of flu outbreaks.

The world didn't end on any of those outbreaks. It's not going to end this time either.

My advice is to watch your health, eat the right foods, wash your hands a lot and avoid being around people who might be sick.

The BEST thing you can do is to stop watching the news! [Wink]

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-30-2009, 04:12 PM:

More people die from the regular flu each year. I am more concerned with catching a cold. It's just the news media trying to get everyone to watch/read. They love to blow things out of proportion. It's how they stay in business. Fear mongering = $$$.

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 04-30-2009, 04:56 PM:

Pig Flu Over The Cookoos Nest??? [evil]

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 04-30-2009, 04:57 PM:

I read the other day that over 10,000 people have died from the regular strains of flu so far this year. I had it a week ago myself! In typical fashion the media is eating this one up... They got ham here but absolutely no cheese!

Mark

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 04-30-2009, 06:00 PM:

More horseshit and fear mongering from the sorry assed completely worthless federal government and news? media

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-30-2009, 06:37 PM:

I found it most ironic that Time magazine ran an article that said that our government's vaccination program in response to the 1976 Swine Flu outbreak was an example of how not to respond to the flu AND that we should consider more draconian responses to this current one.

Essentially, they're saying "The draconian response in 1976 shows us how not to do the job right and we should right now consider doing the same exact things they did." [uhoh]

FFS, more people died as a result of the vaccine than the fucking Swine Flu and lots of the people who didn't die instead got paralyzed.

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 04-30-2009, 07:34 PM:

Its this guy's fault.

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 04-30-2009, 07:42 PM:

A little pig snot should provide immunity same as a flu vaccine.

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 04-30-2009, 08:15 PM:

According to the World Health Orginization, there have only been 7 confirmed deaths caused by swine flu, all in Mexico. The major media would have you believe hundreds have died.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-30-2009, 09:43 PM:

I think the only legitimate concern about the swine flu is that it could mutate into a new strain as it passes from person to person. The worry is a new strain would be more difficult for a person's immune system to fight. The good news is the flu season is all but over with the weather getting warm. I think the media got hold of this news after the disease had run much of its course.

Garden variety influenza causes around 20,000 deaths in the United States every year, although some estimates go as high as 60,000. I saw some statistic a couple days ago that said upwards of half a million people worldwide die from complications brought on by influenza every year.

Locally, no one here in Lawton has come down with swine flu. AFAIK there have been no confirmed cases in Oklahoma. A couple of students in Wichita Falls turned up positive for it. So the school systems went ape shit and canceled lots of athletic events, school functions and then just shut down school.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 04-30-2009, 10:28 PM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
The good news is the flu season is all but over with the weather getting warm.

For your hemisphere maybe. [Eek!]

Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 04-30-2009, 10:53 PM:

There are bound to be scores of UNREPORTED cases of "Swine Flu" as some of us don't usually go to the doctor when we get sick.
What can a doctor really do? It's a viral infection. Chicken Soup and bed rest.

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 04-30-2009, 11:07 PM:

I'm not concerned. This flu "pandemic" is being way less blown out of proportion than the recent bird flu, meaning it is way less dangerous. Since it is less dangerous than the bird flu, and I didn't die of that, I obviously can't die of this strain of flu. Remember how the bird flu was supposed to infect 100,000,000 Americans, and prove fatal to 50,000,000? Oh yeah.

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 04-30-2009, 11:28 PM:

No, I don't remember that. [Confused]

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 05-01-2009, 12:09 AM:

Those were the numbers being reported by CNN, Fox News, and all the other unreliable "news" outlets. They are clearly pulled out of someone's butt, and rank as one of the most ludicrous statistics I've ever heard.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 05-01-2009, 01:07 AM:

37% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Posted by Tyler Potts (Member # 4952) on 05-01-2009, 01:51 AM:

Swine Flu Test:

http://doihaveswineflu.org/

Posted by Charles Greenlee (Member # 3856) on 05-01-2009, 03:12 AM:

quote: John Wilson
For your hemisphere maybe.

Out hemisphere's better than yours. [Razz]

Just messin. Yeah, I'm less concerned over thw swine flu than the normal flu. Lets face it, any variety of the flu's a bitch, but unless you're elderly, an infant, or otherwise sickly (HIV or what have you) chances of dieing from it are rather slim. Kinda like getting struck by lightning 2x in the same spot while winning the lottery and watching hailey's comet. Yeah, I could have strung that along more, but I figured that was redicuous enough. I got something for the piggy flu [fu]

. Hogwash.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 05-01-2009, 04:17 AM:

quote: Charles Greenlee
Out hemisphere's better than yours.

Apparently, you spell 'our' differently there too. What crazy guys you all are.

[Razz]

In other Pig news...

Movies releases to be delayed.

Hollywood studios are postponing the release of their early summer movies in Mexico due to concerns over the spread of the swine flu, the Los Angeles Times reported today (Thursday). Particularly affected, the newspaper said, are the upcoming releases of Star Trek, X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and Angels & Demons. The newspaper noted that Mexico accounts for about 6 percent of all overseas box-office revenue. A delay, the Times observed, could undercut the performance of the films when they finally do open in Mexico since it would allow pirated copies to flood the market. Earlier reports had indicated that one of the few businesses in Mexico not hurt by the flu outbreak has been video rentals -- which are booming.

Posted by Dustin Mitchell (Member # 372) on 05-01-2009, 04:21 AM:

Has the media blown this out of proportion? Oh yeah. Has the government over-reacted to this problem? Perhaps a tad, but I'd rather err ont he side of caution. Few things to consider:

-I believe the virus has an incubation period of a week and a half. If that is true then we haven't seen the 'worst' yet.

-When this first started to a be a big deal governments and health agencies didn't have a crystal ball to see what would happen in a week. You only have past experience to go off of.

Perhaps over cited, but the Spanish Flue of 1918 should not be forgotten:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

quote:
The 1918 flu pandemic (commonly referred to as the Spanish flu) was an influenza pandemic that spread to nearly every part of the world. It was caused by an unusually virulent and deadly Influenza A virus strain of subtype H1N1. Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify the geographic origin of the virus.[1] Most of its victims were healthy young adults, in contrast to most influenza outbreaks which predominantly affect juvenile, elderly, or otherwise weakened patients. The pandemic lasted from March 1918 to June 1920,[2] spreading even to the Arctic and remote Pacific islands. It is estimated that anywhere from 20 to 100 million people were killed worldwide,[3] or the approximate equivalent of one third of the population of Europe,[4][5][6] more than double the number killed in World War I.[7] This extraordinary toll resulted from the extremely high illness rate of up to 50% and the extreme severity of the symptoms, suspected to be caused by cytokine storms. The pandemic is estimated to have affected up to one billion people: more than half the world's population at the time.

And that was before trans-ocean air travel.

quote: James Westbrook
What can a doctor really do? It's a viral infection. Chicken Soup and bed rest.

If treated in the first 48 hours of infection anti-virals are very effective, after the first 48 hours of infection they wont' work.

But yeah, I'm not about to start walking around wearing a mask.

Posted by Rick Raskin (Member # 1561) on 05-01-2009, 06:54 AM:

quote:
More horseshit and fear mongering from the sorry assed completely worthless ... media

Amen! What's the news without giving the public something to worry about. Then they will watch our broadcasts and we can sell more ad time to the [bs]

vendors.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 05-01-2009, 08:18 AM:

quote:
Perhaps over cited, but the Spanish Flue of 1918 should not be forgotten:

Perhaps one should look at this particular flu outbreak and how it compares to others instead of simply citing unrelated outbreaks? This flu appears to give people a fairly mild case, it just happens that young and old are particularly prone to any sort of infection.

And if we're gonna cite outbreaks:
Again, more people died as a result of rushing the 1976 Swine Flu vaccine than people who died because of the disease. And more people were paralyzed from the vaccine than people who got the disease. It never materialized into a pandemic.

In short: We should NOT rush to action.

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 05-01-2009, 09:14 AM:

In Va. there have been two cases "believed" to be swine flu, both people had very mild cases and recovered without medical attention.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-01-2009, 10:27 AM:

The media has latched on to this because the real news right now is boring. Chrysler getting another bailout? (YAWN) Obama's dog is old news. The Mideast is in turmoil - so what, it has been in turmoil for centuries, bring on something more interesting.

We've got no tornadoes, hurricanes or wildfires, the flood in Dakota is over, the whole idea of a black president is old hat, the first 100 days is history (as is the analysis of same), stock market is sitting still in the toilet with the "recovery" is stalled at the gate, Britney Spears has been making hits again (who cares about that? We want to see her crash and burn some more!) And so on and so on. Meanwhile the public health officials get to be on TV and the people making the face masks get to make some money...hey, it's good for the economy!

The pandemic will end when somebody tries to assassinate somebody or drops a bomb somewhere. Sad but true. Meanwhile, please buy face masks made in the U.S.A.!

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 05-01-2009, 12:26 PM:

The guy we buy janitorial products from has had masks on his website for years and sells about 5 boxes a month got a caller from Mexico yesterday wanting to order 25 million masks for immediate delivery with wire transfer of funds the day of shipment. Unfortunately, Ron says he can't replace the boxes he sold last week, none are available.

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-01-2009, 12:59 PM:

Paper masks won't do much good. They MIGHT lessen the chances of getting the flu but there is no proof. The only kind of mask that will prevent you from getting the flu is a positive pressure, full-face respirator... Provided you keep wearing it 24 hours per day.

You could touch a contaminated person or surface with your hand then touch your face, eyes or mouth and you would get the virus just as easily as if you breathed it in.

The best thing to do is to stay away from sick people or places where you might come into contact with sick people then wash your hands often with soap and hot water. Keep yourself in good health. Eat the right foods and stay indoors as much as you can until this problem passes.

The only people masks help are the people who sell them. [Wink]

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 05-01-2009, 01:59 PM:

Hey, if you have a verified swine flu case, I'll come lick their face right now. Apart from being recklessly brave, I really feel no concern over this at all. I eat reasonably well (when I eat), I work out, and I have a naturally effective immune system, from a long history of not being a baby about things. It is the people who get freaked out about this that have the most to worry about, because they are likely to have no resistance to pathogens because they take a bath in hand sanitizer every couple of hours.

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 05-01-2009, 02:33 PM:

Agreed!

If parents would make their kids go outside and get dirty instead of sitting indoors playing Nintendo all day long they would have naturally effective immune systems and these things wouldn't happen so often!

Posted by Darryl Spicer (Member # 711) on 05-01-2009, 03:33 PM:

In 1976 only one person in the United States actually died from the swine flu. He was a 19 year old private from Fort Dix. All the other deaths were caused by major side effects from the vaccinations.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-01-2009, 03:37 PM:

quote: Randy Stankey
If parents would make their kids go outside and get dirty instead of sitting indoors playing Nintendo all day long they would have naturally effective immune systems

Agreed also!

Like George Carlin said: "Growing up near the Hudson River, nobody in my gang was ever sick...because we SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE!"

Posted by Charles Greenlee (Member # 3856) on 05-01-2009, 04:00 PM:

quote: John Wilson
Apparently, you spell 'our' differently there too.

Not really, but we do have a terrible infestation of typo fairies right now. They're pretty much immune to everything, including DDT. [Razz]

Posted by Todd McCracken (Member # 4718) on 05-01-2009, 04:18 PM:

http://tiny.cc/JphTe

Well I guess it was only a matter of time, hope you stocked up on ammo!

[Razz]

Posted by Lyle Romer (Member # 1266) on 05-01-2009, 05:06 PM:

Nothing to see here, it's just a different strain of normal strength flu. There is no evidence that it is any more deadly than the normal flu. It's not a big deal. If it had been called h1n1 or whatever from the beginning nobody would care but call it "Swine Flu" and everybody panics.

Comparisons to 1918 flus and things are pointless. I think that health care has improved a little since 1918. People died of all kinds of diseases back then that we can cure now.

Bottom line is to prevent getting this and other germs the best thing you can do is wash your hands often especially prior to activity that involves eating or touching your mouth or near your eyes and nose. The reason little kids get sick so much (in addition to an underdeveloped immune system) is that they touch everything and put their mouths on everything.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-01-2009, 05:18 PM:

quote: Lyle Romer
If it had been called h1n1 or whatever from the beginning nobody would care but call it "Swine Flu" and everybody panics.

"You yell 'barracuda,' everybody says 'Huh? What?' You yell 'shark,' and we've got a panic on our hands on the fourth of July."

See, life really is like the movies!

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 05-02-2009, 01:29 AM:

quote: Lyle Romer
The reason little kids get sick so much (in addition to an underdeveloped immune system) is that they touch everything and put their mouths on everything.

I'm sure it's more related to a bunch of them being all together, in close proximity to each other, especially with this virus not surviving long on things. Plus, influenza is more-often contracted through the air than anything.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 05-02-2009, 01:50 AM:

Considering how 20,000 or so Americans die of regular flavor Influenza every year a certain brand of comedy must be playing out in news rooms across the nation.

"Hey Marvin! We have a report that 5 people in NY state died of the flu today!"

"Was it the H1N1 Swine Flu variety?"

"No, Marvin. It seems to be regular flu."

"Who gives a shit about that, Chester? The only deaths that count are those that come from pig flu. Normal flu deaths are NOT newsworthy! Waste my time with more of this crap and you're fired."

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 05-02-2009, 07:48 AM:

Darryl's right. Boys and girls, "we have seen the (swine flu) and it is us." We've been down this road before. Anyone remember the swine flu scare in the early to mid 70s? This was probably one of my earliest realizations that the media gets off trying to scare people.

I still have old airchecks of Gary Burbank (real name: William Purser, a guy who made a career of stealing Gary Owen's act) on WHAS doing bits about it. "You must come in NOW and get your swine shot!" (sfx - gunshot) (sfx - pig squealing)

Posted by Galen Murphy-Fahlgren (Member # 4535) on 05-04-2009, 12:22 PM:

One of the local school districts closed down because of an unsubstantiated case of the flu. Brilliant, seeing as their gross mismanagement has already led this relatively affluent district to the brink of financial ruin, and an extended school shutdown and the resultant make up days only costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 05-04-2009, 02:20 PM:

The whole country now seems to be running on the same plan first brought forth in the Green Acres episode, The Great Hooterville Tax Refund Fraud, to wit:

"If you have a loss, you just write to the government, and they refund it to ya!"

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-04-2009, 02:35 PM:

This little Poo Tale says it all....

Posted by Jonathan Worthing (Member # 803) on 05-05-2009, 05:51 AM:

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 05-05-2009, 07:02 AM:

Political issues aside, I find it incredulous that a bright, well spoken guy (the OPrez) could be involved in the swine flu media hoax. Louis

Posted by Dennis Benjamin (Member # 1137) on 05-05-2009, 10:47 AM:

Time to chime in:

Anyone ever hear of psychological warfare? As defined by the U.S. Department of Defense:

"The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievment of national objectives."

Guess who the hostile foreign group is?

..this concludes my dose of common sense for the masses this week..

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 05-05-2009, 12:24 PM:

Like any other politician it's O's job to keep the populace as misinformed and under the thumb of the govt. as possible.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 05-05-2009, 09:31 PM:

LOLOLOL

A girl at work grabbed at her forearm, said it hurt, and then said she thought she had swine flu.

Apparently, she was unaware that if you only have muscle pain (and no other signs of a flu) it is not the flu.

I should punch someone then tell them they have the flu because their muscle hurts.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 05-12-2009, 09:24 PM:

1st Celebrity dies of Swine Flu!!!!!
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And we all know who he got it from.....