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Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 12-06-2009, 12:34 AM:

Hey, why not? Everyone else is saying the same thing.

Now...give me money to tell my 'story'. [sex]

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-06-2009, 12:52 AM:

No $$$ till we see the photos, John.

Pictures never lie.

8 x 10's will do nicely [Big Grin]

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 12-06-2009, 12:57 AM:

I'll fax them to you. [Cool]

(Your Drive-In open tonight? What's on?)

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-07-2009, 12:19 AM:

John.

Ive PM you the latest.

Cheers
Ian

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 12-07-2009, 01:13 AM:

Tiger Woods (from "Blazing Saddles"): Hey, where the white women at? ...how true! [Eek!]

Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 12-10-2009, 08:47 AM:

Just gimme a minute while I whip this out. And evidently he did...many times.

Posted by Randy Stankey (Member # 64) on 12-10-2009, 08:54 AM:

I guess fifteen wasn't his limit on schnitzengruben!

I wonder where he gets his vitamin E.
Havana?

Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 12-10-2009, 09:05 AM:

You think Tiger's out to break Wilt's record?

Wilt's 20,000

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 12-10-2009, 09:50 AM:

Last week I was backing out of my driveway and hit the mailbox. The neighbors called the cops, and the next thing I know, everyday the news is reporting about all the women I've slept with.

Who the fuck cares about Tigers sex life? I can't change channels on the tv without seeing a story about Tiger. The media has blown this way out of proportion.

If I was Tiger, at this point I would be on the news bragging and giving names of all the women.

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 12-10-2009, 10:02 AM:

quote: Richard Hamilton
If I was Tiger, at this point I would be on the news bragging and giving names of all the women.

Yah... that was the point on Imus the other day. They suggested that, rather than drop the Tiger Focus line, Gatorade should have advertised the heck out of it.

"Give me a case of what he's drinking!" [beer]

Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 12-10-2009, 10:03 AM:

With great fame, wealth and pussy comes great exposure. He asked for fame and the other stuff so in our society the social contract he made to get it puts him in the crosshairs of the media. Even you and I couldn't live such a duplicitous life and get away with it for long. One of the real questions is how did he? How long have people in the media been covering it up?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-10-2009, 12:36 PM:

He's being very stupid about the whole thing. If he would just come clean, tell what happened to cause the wreck and apologize a few times, it'd be old news....but since he's clammed up, every little 'tidbit' that is discovered makes the headlines.

Tiger should take a page from the David Letterman playbook on this one. Dave admitted what he'd done, on his show, before it even hit the papers. Result: Most people don't give a crap about it now and his ratings are higher than ever.

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 12-10-2009, 12:51 PM:

David Letterman did something?

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 12-10-2009, 01:01 PM:

One HUGE difference between Tiger Woods and Letterman is Letterman doesn't stand to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in endorsements. Tiger's endorsement deals are the key to the whole thing with his current lack of candor etc. The fact that he was prowling around is not itself very newsworthy or even surprising. He could now say yeah, sorry about that, but it doesn't square with the image he created that made him rich and famous. He conned his sponsors and many of his fans. I guess that elevates it to newsworthy.

Clearly there were media people who knew this was happening. Buick dropped him as a spokesperson/endorser a year ago. I wonder if they knew something about his private life and wanted out because of it?

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 12-10-2009, 01:10 PM:

O.J. "the Juice" Simpson stuff all over again - just in a different form.

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 12-10-2009, 01:59 PM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
If he would just come clean, tell what happened to cause the wreck and apologize a few times, it'd be old news

apologize to who? This should be between him and Elin only. Not the media and the rest of the world.

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 12-10-2009, 02:01 PM:

His given name--Eldrick Tont Woods
He will probably loose some endorsements but maybe he can
pick up some endorsements for Trojans, Viagra etc .

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-10-2009, 02:11 PM:

quote: Richard Hamilton
apologize to who?

Well he's probably cost a lot of people a lot of money by ruining his "image" just to have some jollies.

Posted by Richard Hamilton (Member # 321) on 12-10-2009, 03:01 PM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
Well he's probably cost a lot of people a lot of money by ruining his "image" just to have some jollies.

Yeah, I quit buying Buicks and golfballs because of this fiasco. I don't even know what companies used to sponsor him. Golf is for pussies, except for the real men who walk the 18 holes. Yes, I said hole and pussy, even a reference to balls, in the same paragraph!!! [thumbsup]

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-10-2009, 03:43 PM:

quote: Richard Hamilton
Yeah, I quit buying Buicks and golfballs because of this fiasco.

Apparently you're joking but I'm sure there are plenty of people who will never buy another Nike product if they continue to associate with him.

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 12-10-2009, 03:47 PM:

His endorsement contracts most likely include "appropriate conduct" clauses that state he can't engage in behavior that might reflect negatively on the sponsors and their products. In other words, he has probably technically (and significantly) violated the terms of those contracts by his conduct.

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 12-10-2009, 03:51 PM:

Jim is right. It's a package deal. You can't have the fame and money unless you're willing to deal with the media. Tom Hanks seems to have done it for decades without getting into trouble. It's possible, but for some the temptation is just too great.

quote: Mike Blakesley
Most people don't give a crap about it now and his ratings are higher than ever.

Because Leno retired then pulled a Favre and unretired wearing a different time slot jersey. Leno had beat Letterman in ratings ever since the Hugh Grant interview. Conan isn't gaining viewers like they hoped because Conan doesn't translate to older audiences. In short, Letterman has no competition right now.

quote: David Stambaugh
One HUGE difference between Tiger Woods and Letterman is Letterman doesn't stand to lose hundreds of millions of dollars in endorsements.

Who do you think pays for his show? I can't remember if Letterman lost any sponsors or not, but he certainly could have. Maybe not the same dollar amount, but still that's who pays his salary.

quote: Mike Blakesley
Apparently you're joking but I'm sure there are plenty of people who will never buy another Nike product if they continue to associate with him.

Doubtful. Nike doesn't portray a squeaky clean, family image in their marketing. They promote athletics and competition. Tiger was with them because he is the best golfer ever, not because he goes to church every week and is committed to monogamy. Kobe and A-Rod are doing just fine.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-10-2009, 03:55 PM:

Chad: You're kidding, right? Ever heard of the "Bible Belt?" I would be money there are thousands of people in that part of the country already who have sworn they'll never buy any product with Tiger's name associated with it. Kobe and A-Rod were "bad boys" before they got into bed with Nike. Tiger had a "fall from grace." There's a big difference.

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-10-2009, 04:21 PM:

One day the world will realise that males are male by nature and that monogamy is an un-natural state for the male of the species homo-erectus. Whether modern society likes it or not, this is the "natural" behavior of male physiology and it's intent is to ensure the propagation of the species.

(Most) Males react to visual stimuli, hence the auto-erection process when a male sees a naked female. And don't the ladies know this. This is not wrong, rude, crude or foul. It is nature at work.

As for Tigger (not a misspelling- he likes to bounce, just like Tigger) , cut the guy some slack. I defy any male in his position to not be tempted by the offerings that he was no doubt presented with. He is a male after all and if I was manacled to that thing he's married to, hell, I'd be out looking for a better model myself.

Come to Australia Tigger- we will vote you as Prime Minister, give you all the product endorsements you want, we will name a beer after you, give you a tv show and men here will praise you on high because you achieved what males are naturally designed to do.

You lucky bastard!
[thumbsup]

Posted by James. R. Deeter (Member # 837) on 12-10-2009, 04:38 PM:

This just in..... Tiger Woods to change name. Now to be called Cheeta Woods

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-10-2009, 06:00 PM:

quote: Ian Parfrey
As for Tigger (not a misspelling- he likes to bounce, just like Tigger) , cut the guy some slack. I defy any male in his position to not be tempted by the offerings that he was no doubt presented with.

He shouldn't have gotten married then. Or, if he wanted to sow his wild oats he should've gotten divorced. Any guy who can't "rein himself in" should just not make that commitment. Apparently his solemn promise isn't worth a putter in a pothole.

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 12-10-2009, 06:43 PM:

I guess Tigger should have thought about all that before he got married and spent years crafting his public image and signing endorsement deals.

There's almost no similarity between the Tigger and Letterman situations in my mind, aside from the fact they both cheated on their wives.

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 12-10-2009, 08:42 PM:

Great!. . . . . another "Nancy Grace employment project."

Pubishment for bad guys like Bernie Madoff or maybe even Tiger would be for her to marry one of them. Louis

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 12-10-2009, 08:46 PM:

The proof will be the public's reaction the next time he plays in a tournament.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-11-2009, 06:19 PM:

Looks like that'll be a while...his web site now says he's taking an "indefinite break" from golf.

Which is kind of strange; he'll have even more spare time now!

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-11-2009, 07:01 PM:

First John, now Mike...when will it end?

Tigger HAS been busy. [evil]

Posted by Clint Koch (Member # 1179) on 12-11-2009, 07:20 PM:

Topic: I had an affair with Tiger Woods...

NO, YOU DID NOT! I DID DAMN IT!!!!

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 12-12-2009, 01:51 PM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
Kobe and A-Rod were "bad boys" before they got into bed with Nike. Tiger had a "fall from grace." There's a big difference.

Either we're thinking of different people or you don't follow these professional sports too closely. I cannot remember a single thing that Kobe Bryant was involved with that would classify him as a bad boy prior to his affair. He was squeaky clean by NBA stardard to the point that some suggested the rape charge was fabricated as a way of earning street cred, something he previously lacked due to his well spoken, record free presentation. Apparently it was felt by some in the marketing world that black youth were more likely to buy your products if you earned street cred via a troubled past which Bryant did not have. The rape accusation and even the less serious affair gave him some street cred which raised his marketing value, as the accusation goes.

The same can be said for A-Rod. He was a poster boy. I can't remember a single time in all his years in Seattle or Texas when he slipped up. His problems started in New York and he has shown no ill affects. He actually won over Yankee fans with his playoff performance this year bring back a world championship to Yankee nation.

Long term Tiger will show the same results. This country is quick to forgive and has a short memory when you perform at such an exceptional level. We have countless athletes, actors, and other famous personalities that have found themselves in trouble time and time again, only to come out fine. There may be thousands of people in the bible belt that don't care for Tiger's extramarital affairs, but my guess is if those same people golf, they also dream about being able to drive (a ball that is) like that and will eventually buy a product he endorses. People love the gossip, but also have no problem forgiving and forgetting. If Tiger continues to play well, he'll be just fine, just like A-Rod and Kobe.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 12-12-2009, 03:28 PM:

I don't think Tiger Woods' fooling around is acceptable. But at the same time, it's none of my business either. His golf game is the only thing that interests me.

I'm not sure if his choice to take an "indefinite break" from golf is a good one for him. What will he do to maintain his golf game? One thing is certain: the indefinite break is the perfect way for Woods to get back at these TV networks for the way they've been torching him non-stop for weeks now.

Tiger Woods generates a great deal of viewer ratings for professional golf. Without him there, the ratings are guaranteed to drop quite a bit. Ad revenue will drop right along with those ratings.

quote: Mike Blakesley
Chad: You're kidding, right? Ever heard of the "Bible Belt?" I would be money there are thousands of people in that part of the country already who have sworn they'll never buy any product with Tiger's name associated with it.

Many of those people would be hypocrites.

BTW, what ever happened to judging a product by its quality? I couldn't give a damn about a famous person using a product I'm interested in buying. How many people are really going to buy a Nikon camera because Ashton Kutcher holds one in the commercials?

At times I jokingly call my part of the nation the "hypocrisy belt" rather than the "bible belt."
Oklahoma has no shortage of self-righteous people who love to indulge in moral hand-wringing over topics such as this Tiger Woods thing. Yet many of these same people are guilty of similar offenses or even worse things. These jerks have one set of strict rules they expect everyone else to follow and then have a different, loose set of rules for themselves. Do as I say, not as I do.

Oklahoma often ranks 3rd in the United States (behind Nevada and Hawaii) for highest rates of divorce. So I just had to laugh when the state passed its anti-gay marriage law a few years ago. This state doesn't even know how to do straight marriage correctly! What credibility do they have in being able to tell gay people what they can and cannot do? Amazing.

Nation wide, there's so much hypocrisy and self righteous judgment being cast about that it is just sickening. Americans love tearing anything down. I think this is why "reality TV" shows like Survivor and American Idol are so popular. Americans like to see someone publicly humiliated and insulted -like the way Simon dismisses people on the Idol show. We get off on that sort of thing like it is a form of pornography.

If the magnifying glass was turned 180° toward the media people and the rabid viewers of their swill I'm sure it would uncover a lot of fetid, infectious crap -some of which would make Tiger Woods indiscretions seem very Disneyland pure by comparison. TV media people aren't all pure as the driven snow.

quote: Ian Parfrey
One day the world will realise that males are male by nature and that monogamy is an un-natural state for the male of the species homo-erectus. Whether modern society likes it or not, this is the "natural" behavior of male physiology and it's intent is to ensure the propagation of the species.

Is that to imply monogamy is a natural state for women either? When it comes to sexual history and accumulated number of partners women often have more past partners than men. On average, it's usually much easier for a woman to go out and get laid than it is for the average guy.

This is not to say I'm in favor of open relationships, open marriages and general "polyamory." However, I do believe a great deal of Americans are married to the wrong people or shouldn't have ever been married in the first place.

Too many Americans don't realize marriage is a very serious thing. Too many marry out of convenience, money, security or just to be married to someone so they don't have to be alone. I've never been married or had any kids. So I get these strange "why not?" questions as if to imply I'm a closet homosexual, serial killer or some other negative cliche the public has for people who have been single long term. I just haven't met the right woman yet. I'm not going to get married until I find a woman I can fall in love with and who will love me back the same way. Until then I'm staying single and enjoying it!

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-12-2009, 04:19 PM:

quote: Chad Souder
Either we're thinking of different people or you don't follow these professional sports too closely. I cannot remember a single thing that Kobe Bryant was involved with that would classify him as a bad boy prior to his affair.

You're right that I don't follow pro sports all that much...I'm in the movie business and also have a day job, and haven't got any spare time! But, I've found you can go by how many jokes are told about people on the late night TV shows...and they've sure been going off on Kobe and A-Rod for quite a while. Maybe it just seems like it's been longer than it has.

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-12-2009, 06:57 PM:

Bobby.

quote: Bobby Henderson
Is that to imply monogamy is a natural state for women either? When it comes to sexual history and accumulated number of partners women often have more past partners than men. On average, it's usually much easier for a woman to go out and get laid than it is for the average guy.

Monogamy is an un-natural state for males AND female biologically speaking.

In any relationship, sexual or otherwise, it takes two to participate. And you are right, it is much easier for women to get laid...for that very reason I mentioned. Males are naturally aroused. It's biological.

No-one can say that Tigger's partners didn't know he was married, what with his very public profile- and wouldn't that be part of the excitement of extramartial affairs anyway?

So, no-Tigger shouldn't be the one to cop all the blame. The women knew what they were doing, and granted so did Tigger, so to crucify Wood's singularly is just plan wrong. This will perpetuate the mindset that the male is a sexual prowler and a piece of shit. No wonder male suicide and depression is skyrocketing.

Some say he should have gotten divorced or not got married in the first instance.

Gees, I wonder how many males going through the divorce courts, losing their assets and their access to their kids are saying that right now?

One other thing. How does one know if marriage is for them unless they try it- in which case it's too late to realise when it isn't?

I've been there, done that, and guess what?

The best friend a man can ever have...is a border collie.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 12-12-2009, 08:51 PM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
BTW, what ever happened to judging a product by its quality? I couldn't give a damn about a famous person using a product I'm interested in buying. How many people are really going to buy a Nikon camera because Ashton Kutcher holds one in the commercials?

Not to help argue for hypocrites but there's a difference between buying a product because a celeb endorses it and boycotting it because a certain celebrity does.

As an example, if a guy were to kill my mom and dad then later open up a store after getting out of prison, I'd be unlikely to buy stuff from him. And I don't think it's all that hypocritical to not want to buy stuff that helps support the guy who killed your parents.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-12-2009, 08:59 PM:

quote: Ian Parfrey
Monogamy is an un-natural state for males AND female biologically speaking.

That is true, but people are supposed to be smart enough to control themselves....this is what separates us from the apes, isn't it?

Those women of Tiger's had nothing to lose. He on the other hand, being a billionaire and all, if he didn't have any morals he should have at least had the smarts to know what he was risking. I mean, I thought he was a good businessman; I didn't think he was an idiot.

Posted by Cameron Glendinning (Member # 3516) on 12-12-2009, 09:16 PM:

quote: Ian Parfrey
Monogamy is an un-natural state for males AND female biologically speaking.

Just tell that to the penguins!

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 12-12-2009, 11:22 PM:

For every self-righteous hypocrite out there you'll also find thousands of regular folks who quietly live righteous lives and never bother to holler about it in public.

One of Tiger Woods' "girlfriends" was interviewed on The Today Show and the interviewer feigned being dumfounded at her willingness to speak about her affair in public. But, of course, the show hosts were simultaneously bragging about how they bagged an exclusive interview. I can remember a time when people who were known to behave badly would offer "no comment" to the press. Now it's like a badge of honor.

Craig Ferguson has figured out the secret of why television is horrible. Please apply this analysis to Tiger's girlfriend.

Non-random video.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 12-12-2009, 11:52 PM:

quote: Chris Slycord
As an example, if a guy were to kill my mom and dad then later open up a store after getting out of prison, I'd be unlikely to buy stuff from him. And I don't think it's all that hypocritical to not want to buy stuff that helps support the guy who killed your parents.

I don't think that's quite the same analogy. Tiger Woods doesn't actually make or even sell the products that are being associated with his name. And murder is a far more serious crime than marital infidelity -which really isn't much of a crime anymore.

On top of that, the people who scream and bitch the loudest about a famous person's infidelity are bound to be hiding the same dirty secrets. They don't practice what they preach. For example, how about that televangelist in Colorado Springs who went on and on in his sermons against homosexuals only to be found out as being one who frequented male prostitutes and did crystal meth with them? It's that old "the guilty dog barks the loudest" thing.

quote: Greg Anderson
For every self-righteous hypocrite out there you'll also find thousands of regular folks who quietly live righteous lives and never bother to holler about it in public.

I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think there's quite so many of those truly moral yet quiet people living here in Oklahoma and certain other "bible belt" states. Lots of people call themselves "Christians" but don't practice one of the cornerstone philosophies of that faith: don't cast judgment unless you are ready to be judged.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 12-13-2009, 12:08 AM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
I don't think that's quite the same analogy. Tiger Woods doesn't actually make or even sell the products that are being associated with his name. And murder is a far more serious crime than marital infidelity -which really isn't much of a crime anymore.

I never said anything about caring them that Woods makes/sells products. The analogy is that people might not want to pay money to an organization that supports a person they don't like.

Note again that I'm not agreeing with them. I personally couldn't give less of a shit about products he endorses.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-13-2009, 12:45 AM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
marital infidelity -which really isn't much of a crime anymore.

Where'd you get that idea? You probably better never get married. (Or maybe you're using the word "crime" literally? If that's the case you get a pass.)

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-13-2009, 01:13 AM:

quote:
Just tell that to the penguins!

Well thank [sex]

I'm not a penguin.

quote: Mike Blakesley
Those women of Tiger's had nothing to lose.

True. But how much to gain?

quote: Mike Blakesley
That is true, but people are supposed to be smart enough to control themselves....this is what separates us from the apes, isn't it?

Apes aren't monogamous, gibbons are.

Either way this still doesn't answer the argument that how come Tigger is hammered and the women aren't? They ALL knew what was at stake, yet the guy gets a reaming and the girls get the $$$ and get celebrity status. Just wait for the cover stories.

Equal rights my arse.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 12-13-2009, 01:20 AM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
Where'd you get that idea? You probably better never get married. (Or maybe you're using the word "crime" literally? If that's the case you get a pass.)

It's more the latter. Yes, marital infidelity is a sin. But who in the United States goes to jail for cheating on a spouse? In some countries you can be executed for it.

Infidelity doesn't even work as a factor in child custody disputes in the process of divorce. Here in Oklahoma a woman could be allowing a whole football team to "run a train" on her every week. Her estranged husband could be an unstained pillar of the community. Still, the courts in this state would award custody to the mother despite her immoral activities. The only way she loses custody of the child, or loses anything else (like alimony, child support payments, the house, etc.) is if she poses an immediate physical danger to the child. I don't think this situation is fair at all. It's a form of sexism, but that's the way it is even in this Bible Belt state.

I think this is one of the things that encourages widespread infidelity. No consequences. Lack of accountability. These days it seems as if only big name celebrities like Tiger Woods have something to lose by fooling around behind his wife's back.

quote: Ian Parfrey
One other thing. How does one know if marriage is for them unless they try it- in which case it's too late to realise when it isn't?

There's that old saying "we learn from our mistakes." Screw that. I very much prefer to learn from the mistakes of other people and not repeat those mistakes myself.

I'm not against the notion of getting married. I hope I meet a wonderful lady who will love me back and spend the rest of her life with me. But I refuse to force the issue. I refuse to settle.

Far too many people merely settle for mere companionship rather than love because they're afraid to be alone or they're caving to pressure from others to be married just because they're supposed to be married. Some people are too cowardly to break up a relationship that is going nowhere. Next thing they know, they're standing at the altar in some church exchanging vows with someone they never meant to marry! That shit does happen! Being alone isn't all that great at times, but it's far better than the situation of being married to someone you don't love or worse being married to someone who doesn't love you. Being alone is a cakewalk compared to being in a bad marriage.

Posted by Greg Anderson (Member # 235) on 12-13-2009, 09:02 AM:

quote: Bobby Henderson
This state doesn't even know how to do straight marriage correctly! What credibility do they have in being able to tell gay people what they can and cannot do? Amazing.

I would enjoy sticking up for the silent millions of straight people in America who are "doing marriage correctly" but I'm afraid it would be deemed a political and/or religious discussion. (It seems that making negative remarks towards religious people is tolerable in this thread, but an opposing view would turn this into a religious discussion and would not be welcomed, right?)

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-13-2009, 11:12 AM:

I don't really think there have been negative remarks toward religious people. I'm religious myself. I just stated a fact, that a lot of people who ARE religious will now have a far lower opinion of T. Woods and be less likely to be swayed by ad campaigns featuring him.

I know I now have a lower opinion of him than I did before -- but I never gave much of a crap about him in the first place.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 12-13-2009, 12:14 PM:

I don't have anything against spiritual people. However, I have a big problem with hypocrisy and I see a lot of that going hand in hand with the self righteous indignation being displayed by so many over topics like that of Tiger Woods recent publicized activities.

I think the truly moral people who often stay quiet have the right idea: be concerned about your own problems and what kind of example you are setting instead of focusing on the other guy.

Posted by Tim Reed (Member # 137) on 12-13-2009, 12:29 PM:

To paraphrase a famous quote, we ALL miss the mark to some degree.

Posted by Joshua Waaland (Member # 287) on 12-14-2009, 09:55 AM:

I'm with Tim on this one. Why is Tiger Woods' personal life such media fodder right now? Yeah, he screwed up and he is paying the price by losing his endorsements (and I wouldn't want my business attached to him right now either) and maybe his marriage, but what business is that of ours?

I was raised going to church and have attended various churches for most of my life. I used to put certain people in the church up on pedestals in my mind. Then I would see those same "righteous people" (or so I thought) leave their wives for other women. The biggest lesson I learned from that was that everybody fails and we all make mistakes. We are all a big mess inside. Some just hide it better than others. Those people are not perfect and should not be treated as such in my mind. That is the very nature of humanity. We are all flawed. I no longer raise people to that high of a standard anymore. Everytime I have done that I was later disappointed in their behavior in some way.

I just wish the media would move on already. It must be a slow news month. Let's face it, the media (and people in general) love to see someone with a squeaky clean image such as his brought down. It makes us feel less crappy about ourselves.

Posted by Jack Ondracek (Member # 1466) on 12-14-2009, 10:37 AM:

Well, that's what it really is, right? Sad to say, Fox (which I watch a lot of) is probably the absolute worst at this kind of "journalism".

A story like this would have exploded (for a while, anyway) on most any celebrity. Even if most details weren't true, some mags would have made stuff up.

What amazed me was how much coverage was given this story before the marital issues came up. Anyone else takes out a fire hydrant, even most celebs, and it's a yawner headline on a slow news day. In the case of Tiger, the reporters were immediately talking about potential criminal charges... for going off the road and killing a water faucet. And... watch for an hour and you'd see 4 stories, all with different accounts about how his wife acted.

Possibly what contributed to the journalistic explosion here, is that some reporters are acting like they knew Tiger wasn't as squeeky clean as he appeared, yet nobody seemed to want to do a Woodward and Bernstein on him. He took the top off the can by wrecking his car... and oh, by the way... did you know about his 14 "blue collar" girlfriends?... and the texts and the TV interviews (well, Tiger won't talk, but here are all these people coming out of the woodwork)!!!!!!!

Sheeesh. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by David Stambaugh (Member # 1102) on 12-14-2009, 11:42 AM:

Although I can't find a link right now, according to today's The Today Show, Woods has had a high-power law firm taking care of "bimbo eruption" allegations going back to at least 2007. This law firm specializes in suppressing dirt on celebrities. The National Enquirer wanted to publish a story about Woods' infidelities a couple years ago, asked Tiger for comment, Tiger referred the issue to these lawyers, lawyers successfully threatened Enquirer with all kinds of lawsuits etc. if they published the story. Story was suppressed.

Apparently though once the dam broke recently, there was no chance of keeping it all out of the news any longer.

Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 12-14-2009, 02:58 PM:

quote: Joshua Waaland
Yeah, he screwed up

According to his girlfriends... and sideways. [eyes]

Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 12-14-2009, 05:07 PM:

Apparently Nike is changing their slogan to "Just Think It" because Tiger took "Just Do It" too far. [Big Grin]

Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 12-14-2009, 06:52 PM:

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Posted by Phil Hill (Member # 371) on 12-14-2009, 07:00 PM:

The problem IS Tiger's Wood...

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 01-02-2010, 01:12 AM:

Video of the real event:

Posted by Anslem Rayburn (Member # 1267) on 01-02-2010, 05:47 PM:

quote: Joshua Waaland
I'm with Tim on this one. Why is Tiger Woods' personal life such media fodder right now? Yeah, he screwed up and he is paying the price by losing his endorsements (and I wouldn't want my business attached to him right now either) and maybe his marriage, but what business is that of ours?

He made millions off of being in the public eye, playing a game and hawking products (asking the public to trust him.) Why should he expect any level of privacy now? He was willing to put himself in the public eye for profit, why should he expect differently now?

He chose to be a golfer, he chose to be a paid spokesman, he chose to be in the public eye. Those choices came with incredible benefits, and they also carry incredible consequences.