Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Facebook's location stupidity

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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 08-20-2010, 09:39 PM:

I see this sort of thing all the time "Phil just checked into the XXX titty bar" on people's facebook pages. This is really going a bit far though.

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In a new feature rolled out late last night, Facebook now allows users of its iPhone app to check themselves and their friends into locations where they're hanging out, allowing their friends to follow them in real time. Oh, there's no way this can go wrong!

The most worrying aspect of Facebook Places is that you can be checked in by other people. So if you're skipping work, for example, and having lunch with a friend instead, they can check you both in and your boss could see it and fire you.

Fortunately, you need to opt-in to that privacy setting. The first time someone tries to check you in, you'll get an option to not allow them to do so or to allow other people to check you in. But once you approve one, you'll approve all future friend check-ins.

Not to mention the inherent weirdness of having all of your Facebook friends knowing where you are all the time. What do you think, will you use Facebook Places?

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 08-20-2010, 10:03 PM:

And if someone requests to be friends with you who is a bit shady, they'd know you'd left your place empty...

Posted by Nathan Tarpley (Member # 4476) on 08-20-2010, 10:42 PM:

What is Facebook?

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 08-20-2010, 11:57 PM:

I call Facebook's new "places" feature their "throw you under the bus" feature. It's one thing if you want to announce you have just arrived at a certain public place, which may not be all that wise. It's another for others to do that for you and possibly throw you under the bus in the process. Any number of things are possible if others announce your real-time location on the Internet, many of those possibilities being bad.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-21-2010, 01:51 AM:

quote: Brad Miller
I see this sort of thing all the time "Phil just checked into the XXX titty bar" on people's facebook pages.

No shit! I see Phil posting crap like that all the time! That and the naked pics he posts from inside various Regal Entertainment Group theaters. Phil goes crazy a lot on Facebook.

But anyway, you can turn that stuff off from within Facebook.

Upper right corner:
ACCOUNT > PRIVACY SETTINGS > CUSTOM > CUSTOMIZE SETTINGS.

-Change "Places I check in to" to Friends Only or Custom.
-Right below that, be sure to uncheck the enable box for "Include me in "People Here Now" after I check in"
-A little below that, change "Friends can check me in to Places" to DISABLE.

You're done.

Posted by Mark Gulbrandsen (Member # 72) on 08-21-2010, 06:15 AM:

Hey Joe... Does Facebook have a place to check when you're getting a speeding ticket?

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 08-21-2010, 09:18 AM:

Facebook's privacy settings are too complicated and change too often to keep up with. They should just boil the whole thing down to two settings:

___ I give a shit
___ I don't give a shit

The teenagers would choose the second option and the smart people would choose the first.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 08-21-2010, 09:25 AM:

Although I have no personal relationship to either side, I continue to be annoyed when people complain about Facebook privacy issues. The whole purpose of Facebook is to share information, yet people complain when it does its job too well. If you don't like it, don't sign up for an account. I fail to see why some people seem to think that they have any right to complain about a service for which they signed up voluntaily and which is provided to them at no cost.

Personally, I don't see why FB has become so popular. I keep in touch with people I know by telephone, email, and by seeing them in person. I am in the phone book and have a web site. People who need to get in touch with me already know how to do that. They also know where I live and what kinds of books and movies I like. I'm not sure what I would gain by giving FB a bunch of personal information for free so that they can put advertising all over it and redistribute it. But that's just me. [Razz]

Edit: I can sort of understand why the service would be popular for college students (its original audience), but I suspect that most would really not prefer to have those pictures of them doing stupid things while drunk in circulation twenty years later.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 08-21-2010, 10:19 AM:

quote: Scott Norwood
Although I have no personal relationship to either side, I continue to be annoyed when people complain about Facebook privacy issues. The whole purpose of Facebook is to share information, yet people complain when it does its job too well. If you don't like it, don't sign up for an account.

You're completely ignoring that facebook has changed how they work over the years. Someone who signed up a few months ago didn't have many of the privacy issues they'd have now, because the system was different then. And even more so if the person initially signed up a year or two ago.

Then there's the fact that they have been changing things and automatically forcing the change on you silently. Granted, they've apparently learned their lesson by having this new feature be one you must opt-in to enable.

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 08-21-2010, 01:24 PM:

I was introduced to Facebook by several of my Friends almost two years ago and at first I did not know what the fuss was all about this site. Over time, I became convinced that Facebook was a wonderful social venue and a great way to share information and images with others.

I have been in business as a professional photographer for a little over forty five years and have enjoyed my career very much. I have been posting some of my favorite images I had photographed with film many years ago at Facebook lately and have enjoyed doing it because many of my friends have enjoyed seeing them including some of you here at Film Tech. Some of the images have not been publicly shown in years and I am glad I now have the opportunity to share them with others through this site. I have appreciated all of the nice comments some of you had made about my images and will post more on a daily basis and I hope you will continue to enjoy them.

-Claude

Posted by Manny Montes (Member # 5639) on 08-21-2010, 02:21 PM:

I like facebook, keeps me in touch with people i'd have lost touch with from school and previous jobs. It is a privacy risk if you don't reign in your settings, I'm pretty much completely private except for name and a single profile picture for people to identify me if they want to add me.

It all depends on how you use it (or dont)

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-21-2010, 02:48 PM:

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Hey Joe... Does Facebook have a place to check when you're getting a speeding ticket?

Well sure. While the officer is writing you up you can "check in" to a nearby place, but I think it'd be much easier just to type, "I am currently in the process of getting a speeding ticket, now the officer is yelling at me because I am ignoring him and typing on my phone. Now I am being beaten by the officer because that is what they do. Now I am being tasered. Now I am dead."

Posted by Chad Souder (Member # 343) on 08-21-2010, 03:25 PM:

In Iowa, it is now illegal to do messaging of any kind while driving, so the cop could issue you another ticket for writing an update while behind the wheel.

The only security change Facebook needs to make is allowing the user to distinguish between "Friends" and "acquaintances." I may want to compare my gut with that of someone I went to highschool with, but if they weren't a friend then, they certainly aren't one now. Then you could have two different levels of security. Friends get to see everything, acquaintances get to peek at a couple pics, see some current info, and only have one out of 10 of their unnecessary, pointless, drivel laden status updates posted to your wall. Then they can try and convince you they're a friend to get to see more and make you read all their idiotic ramblings. I've hidden at least 30 of my friends.

Facebook for me has become little more than Mafia Wars for 6 minutes and spying on employees. I don't even know why I play Mafia Wars. It's so stupid, yet unexplainably addictive. I do spy on my employees though. Sometimes they're just stupid enough to make a mistake.

Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 08-21-2010, 03:41 PM:

One of my facebook friends posted recently that her boss is a "c__t". This was over a month ago, and that friend is still employed. Must mean the friend's coworkers are not her facebook friends and thus didn't know and didn't tell on her.
I have edited my news feeds to omit Farm Town, Mafia Wars and any new game that seems to pop up. Most of which seem to be played by adults my age or older...

Posted by Jim Bedford (Member # 4) on 08-21-2010, 10:18 PM:

There are enough frightening, funny, stupid, sublime, bizarre and strange things that people have pointed out can happen with the use of Facebook Places that it's just ripe for a movie script or a TV series. Hell, it might already be in the pipeline.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 08-21-2010, 11:57 PM:

Facebook Places is yet another technological reason why no one should screw around on a significant other. Big Brother is watching and we are Big Brother.

Even if you disable all tagging stuff in the Facebook Places feature any of your friends (or even friends of friends) could announce he/her saw that you arrived at a certain place with a certain somebody and that certain somebody certainly isn't your significant other. Most certainly. And you'll certainly be screwed over this situation. Deleting that certain "friend" from your friends list will then be the least of your problems.

Still, I consider Facebook to be more positively useful than negative. I've gotten back in touch with friends not seen in more than 20 or even 30 years. As someone who grew up as a Marine Corps brat in various places across the country (and Japan) I think that is very cool.

It's pretty cool, but sort of scary at the same time, in how Facebook is getting so heavily integrated into smart phones. My contact list and calender has all sorts of hooks into Facebook. If you have listed your birthday or a particular important event on FB and am in my friend's list your birthday and/or event will automatically show up in my phone's calender. It's convenient, but may inspire yet another new level of laziness.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-22-2010, 12:07 AM:

quote: James Westbrook
One of my facebook friends posted recently that her boss is a "c__t". This was over a month ago, and that friend is still employed. Must mean the friend's coworkers are not her facebook friends and thus didn't know and didn't tell on her.

There are multiple possibilities here;

-Her Facebook friends agree that the boss is a cunt bitch.

-Her Facebook friends don't feel like getting involved in her drama.

-She blocked her coworkers from seeing that particular status update. Easy to do.

Posted by James Westbrook (Member # 3690) on 08-22-2010, 02:43 AM:

*laughing*
That particular girl is all about drama, Joe, so it's answer #2.
Strangely I have several female "friends" who seem to relish breaking up with their boyfriends on Facebook or bitch about how the boyfriend doesn't understand her needs. I once sent a note to one of them informing her that "Boys don't know that shit instinctively. We are not wired that way. You have to train and teach that boyfriend what your needs are."
She agreed, but after she had another facebook "spat" with her boyfriend I simply started ignoring her. I should "hide" her entries like I hide all the Farm Ville related shit from my newsfeed.

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 08-22-2010, 10:12 PM:

It's been fun updating places...but I don't know how useful it will be in a small town or if hardly any of your friends use it. I was using loopt, but hardly anyone I knew was using it as well, so it made it kind of pointless. I'm hoping since Facebook has integrated it, I can have some more fun.

AJG

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 08-23-2010, 12:09 AM:

I don't really see the point in Places or Foursquare or whatnot. If you want people to know you're somewhere, just say you are there! Interestingly, my Twitter geotags every post I make, but doesn't say the place where I am, just a street that is near me.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 08-23-2010, 06:26 AM:

7:24am - en route to store; need milk and eggs

(does anyone really care about this?)

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 08-23-2010, 07:36 AM:

Scott, are you getting the extra large eggs? I'll bet you are a 2% kind of guy.

Nobody ever "signs in" to the restroom.

Posted by Scott Norwood (Member # 30) on 08-23-2010, 07:43 AM:

8:41am - bought milk (Garelick Farms, whole, one quart) and eggs (large, brown, half dozen); now at work; it is raining outside

Posted by Mike Heenan (Member # 392) on 08-24-2010, 07:54 PM:

My status one day a few months back : Pooing is no longer fun to do when you're eating healthy.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 08-24-2010, 10:50 PM:

Try this experiment: eat nothing but fruit for three days. Apples, oranges, grapes, bananas, etc. One of my friends, a chiropractor and fitness freak, says it works very well to cleanse the body of lots of bad stuff.

You'll camp out on the toilet a LOT. Not quite as bad as drinking quarts of "go lightly" before a colonoscopy, but still pretty bad nonetheless.

It reminded me of one of my Grandfather's metaphors for diarrhea: the green apple squirts.

I don't care what anyone says, bathroom humor is funny. Git er done!

Posted by Mark Hajducki (Member # 1732) on 08-25-2010, 08:19 PM:

quote: Chad Souder
The only security change Facebook needs to make is allowing the user to distinguish between "Friends" and "acquaintances."

Shouldn't there be a third option of "Family"?

quote: James Westbrook
One of my facebook friends posted recently that her boss is a "c__t". This was over a month ago, and that friend is still employed.

Will depend on the boss/company

The following appeared in a film rated 15 (not 18) in the UK, so is obviously not too offensive.

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Y'know, I've come across a lot of psychos, but none as fucking boring as you. You are a real boring fuck. Sorry, sorry, I know you disapprove of swearing so I'll sort that out. You are a boring F, star, star, CUNT!