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Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 02-03-2011, 03:11 PM:
 
I am a non smoker now and has been for many years but when I was much younger I used to smoke a pipe and cigars. I especially loved pipe smoking and still have a very nice collection of pipes made from special woods with very weird carvings. My dentist made me give up pipe smoking when the heat generated from smoking was causing problems at the roof of my mouth. He warned me that I would risk getting cancer if I continued to smoke a pipe so I reluctantly gave it up. I also smoked cigars at the time and once had the opportunity to enjoy a box of Cuban cigars I bought from a duty free store on the Canadian side of Niagara Fall many years ago. They were delightful and I was very sad when I smoked the last one I also gave up Cigar smoking shortly after I had quit pipe smoking. Because I never acquired a taste for cigarettes and never inhaled when I smoked a pipe and cigars, I never became addicted to tobacco and it was very easy to quit.

I was at a convenience store at the Ala Moana Centre mall in Honolulu the other day and saw on the counter a display of cigars made from tobacco leaves grown on the island of Kauai here in Hawaii. I knew coffee and cacao are grown here but I did not know tobacco for cigars was too. What is interesting is the fact that Cuba is almost exactly east of us in the Atlantic ocean and the seed used at the Hawaiian plantation is the same seed used for Cuban cigar production- Pinar del Rio. Other Cuban cigar seed are also used such as Habano, Corojo, and Criollo. Because of United States and State of Hawaii tax on tobacco production especially cigar production would make locally produced cigars prohibitive, the leaves are shipped to Nicaragua after they have been harvested, dried and cured. Additional processing is done to the leaves in Nicaragua and they are finally hand rolled at a small cigar production plant and shipped back to Hawaii.

After reading the literature I got from the store, I am very tempted to give it a try by going back to the store and purchase some The cigars are not cheap costing about $4.00 each in package of three. If you are interested, you can go to their website at www.kauaicigar.com to learn more about the Kauai Cigar Company. You can also read testimonials and find out where you can buy the cigars when you go online.

-Claude
 
Posted by Jarret Chessell (Member # 5077) on 02-03-2011, 06:22 PM:
 
I actually received a nice humidor for Christmas this year. I quit smoking cigarettes when my wife was a few months pregnant. I like to smoke cigars, but I'm sampling around brands and types right now.
I find they help me not smoke cigarettes, if you have smoker friends over, I can just smoke one cigar all night without the temptation for cigarettes.
They're also great in the backyard in the summer when you're having beers (I love my kegorator!)
For the most part I play around in the romeo y Julieta's, but I have some CAO and H. Upmann's sitting around too. I actually discovered "nice" cigars when in Mexico (Good ones are pretty cheap there).
Not all cuban's are super expensive, but Cohiba's I think are what come to mind for most people when talking about cuban cigars, and they are expensive. I think the most expensive cigar in my humidor right now is a $15 corona. I like to keep some less expensive ones around for sharing and having one without feeling guilty about the cost.
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-03-2011, 08:39 PM:
 
well i am a die hard pipe smoker and probably will never give it up
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the only way to eq a room
 
Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 02-03-2011, 10:22 PM:
 
Gordon, that should be your profile picture!

AJG
 
Posted by Robert Throop (Member # 61) on 02-03-2011, 10:26 PM:
 
I confess to enjoying an occasional cigar.
 
Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 02-03-2011, 10:52 PM:
 
quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
I am very tempted to give it a try
Honestly Claude, I wouldn't do it. Remember what the dentist said?
 
Posted by David Favel (Member # 1125) on 02-05-2011, 03:47 PM:
 
$4 for 3?
Buy them now!
Occasionally can get decent cigars for a decent price, but my sister is usually on the lookout for me when travelling thru duty free.
 
Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 02-05-2011, 03:53 PM:
 
Cigars was not the problem, Tom. It was the pipe smoking that was causing the problem in my mouth. If I decide to try the Hawaiian cigars, it will be only to settle my curiosity about how good they are.

-Claude
 
Posted by Ian Parfrey (Member # 5122) on 02-05-2011, 05:15 PM:
 
Monica, Monica.
Where for art thou Monica?
 
Posted by Gordon McLeod (Member # 33) on 02-05-2011, 05:47 PM:
 
Monica she is busy in the humidor [Smile] [sex]
 
Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 02-07-2011, 10:42 PM:
 
Claude-you have made it this far. Why go back to tobacco. There is no such thing as safe tabacco use
 
Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 02-08-2011, 12:26 PM:
 
quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
Cigars was not the problem, Tom. It was the pipe smoking that was causing the problem in my mouth.
Did your dentist actually say this? Or are yo only assuming that because he said that you should stop pipe smoking that cigar smoking would be alright with him?
 
Posted by Lionel Fouillen (Member # 1475) on 02-08-2011, 04:27 PM:
 
I occasionally smoked cigarettes and cigars in the past but nothing too fancy. What I do however smoke on a regular basis is the pipe, since I'm 20 years old. I really enjoy its taste, art and fun. I have a weakness for vanilla-flavored tobacco.
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 02-08-2011, 06:13 PM:
 
Hi Lionel

quote: Lionel Fouillen
since I'm 20 years old
I know you really mean " 'since I was' 20 years old". It's incorrect as what you have posted literally means you are now 20 years old. I actually like saying it that way (reminds me of living in Belgium) but you have to be careful where and how you say it. If you'd said "since 20 years" it would be correct-ish but "for 20 years" would be better.

I used to enjoy the odd cigar but the last one I had about 3 months ago left that icky taste in my mouth. I had not had one prior since about 3 years. [Wink]

My favourite was Romeo Y Julietta.

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Posted by Lionel Fouillen (Member # 1475) on 02-09-2011, 06:16 AM:
 
John, thanks for correcting me. [Wink] I've been smoking for 20 years, and was 20 years old when I started [Wink]

I smoked a few "Churchill" Romeo y Julieta as well. But finally gave up due to the terrible smell that stays in the rooms (and also in the car when I had the weakness of smoking in the heavy traffic jams around Brussels, listening to Maurice Jarre or John Williams).
 
Posted by Fred Georges (Member # 505) on 02-09-2011, 08:11 AM:
 
Dear Claude, Give them a try. But, realize the Cigar is using the Hawaiian tobacco as the filler. The wrappers & binders, which give a Cigar much of its distinctive flavor are NOT Hawaiian and as such you really might not taste what your local tobaccos all about. Cuban cigars are generally "Puros" meaning that the Cigar uses 100% Cuban tobacco. [beer]
 
Posted by Gordon Bachlund (Member # 124) on 02-09-2011, 10:16 AM:
 
With apologies to Cheech and Chong, I'm "Stilll Smokin'," mostly Garcia y Vega English coronas.
 
Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 02-09-2011, 12:58 PM:
 
My dentist DID tell me I should give up pipe smoking to prevent the risk of getting mouth cancer.At the time, I did not totally give up smoking cigars right away but eventually stopped smoking them too. I think it has been at least 14 years since I smoked. Because I do not and have never had an addiction problem with tobacco when I smoked a pipe and cigars because I did not inhale, I do not think there will be a problem if I smoked one or three cigars now if I tried the Hawaiian cigars out of curiosity. No matter how good they may be, I will not resume smoking after I sampled the cigars because I prefer spending my money on more practical things like food, clothes, or even Blu-Ray discs.

-Claude
 
Posted by Fred Georges (Member # 505) on 02-09-2011, 07:22 PM:
 
Cigar tobaccos are grown in very alklyd soil & as such the smoke is very akryd & will knock you on your keester if you inhale. Cigars are also not as nicotine intensive as cigarettes & aren't as physically addictive. I quit smoking cigarettes 25 years ago cold turkey & only in the last few years have taken up smoking an occasional stoggie. I do find them Very enjoyable on a limited basis. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-09-2011, 07:37 PM:
 
I'm not sure how anyone can stand cigars simply due to the smell. It is absolutely overpowering and not in a good way. Pipes can smell somewhat pleasant so I can understand that not that I'd ever want to smoke anything. Cigarettes and weed smell awful as well, but not quite as potent as cigars. What the hell is wrong with people? If cig, joint and cigar smells are OK, I would think that the deodorant industry would fail simply because all are worse smells than B.O.
 
Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 02-09-2011, 09:31 PM:
 
Joe: Fully agreed. My grandpa was a pipe smoker and that was the only tobacco smoke I ever even sorta liked the smell of.

What's really amazing to me is why women start smoking. Women are always so concerned about how they smell, why would they do something guaranteed to make them smell bad? I just don't get it.
 
Posted by Frank Angel (Member # 248) on 02-09-2011, 09:46 PM:
 
That's something I never quite understood. My grandpa and uncle both smoked pipes and I always found the odor not only to be inoffensive, but actually very pleasant; I think my uncle smoked a tobacco that was laced with cherry. It filled the house with a warm, sweet scent. Yet cigars are uniquivocally, incredibly vile smelling. How can they be such polar opposites when it's essentially the same process for both -- they are burning tobacco?

Without meaning to offend anyone who smokes cigars, but do you have any idea how disgusting they smell to anyone within 100 yards? I assume that most cigar smokers are careful to practice good hygiene and use deodorant so as NOT to smell offensive and would be mortified and painfully embarrassed if they thought they had horrible BO which repelled everyone around them. So how is it they seem oblivious to the fact that their cigar stink is like 100 times more noxious that the worst BO and worse, it is inescapable by anyone in the same building. Do they not comprehend that everyone around them is thinking the same thing: how is it this guy doesn't know he smells like decomp?
 
Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 02-09-2011, 10:00 PM:
 
quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
My dentist DID tell me I should give up pipe smoking to prevent the risk of getting mouth cancer.
Not what I asked.

Let me recap
You: My problem wasn't with cigars. It was only with the pipe, according to my dentist.
Me: Did he actually tell you that it was ok to smoke cigars?
You: Yes, he told me not to smoke the pipe and that it was gonna give me cancer.

Telling you "Don't smoke pipes" isn't the same as "Go ahead and smoke cigars." That is, unless he actually told you to smoke cigars and that doing so wouldn't increase your mouth cancer risk (in which case he'd be committing malpractice).
 
Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 02-09-2011, 11:18 PM:
 
I would rather sniff a skunk's ass than be within 100 feet of anyone smoking a cigar. It's assuredly far less offensive smelling. But as always, people who smoke don't realize this or care what others think.
 
Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 02-09-2011, 11:42 PM:
 
quote: Mike Blakesley
What's really amazing to me is why women start smoking. Women are always so concerned about how they smell, why would they do something guaranteed to make them smell bad? I just don't get it.
They think it's the "in" thing to do. They're insecure and they see the popular girls smoking, so they feel a lot of pressure to do the same stupid shit.

Additionally, quite a few women continue to smoke because nicotine is reportedly an appetite suppressant. In our society it's more important to be thin than it is to be healthy. Working out at the gym can burn off lots of empty calories, but smoking and not eating is apparently easier.

I'm still trying to figure out why anyone would ever use methamphetamine. That highly addictive, dangerous drug rots out the pleasure centers of the brain, smoking it rots out the user's teeth and the drug radically speeds up the aging process. With as much importance as society places on being young and beautiful meth would seem to be the last thing anyone would want to try. Yet there's no shortage of idiots looking high and low for that crank. I suppose the users get into doing the drug just to fit in with the crowd. Idiots.

Back on topic, I've never been a big fan of cigars. I agree certain kinds of pipe tobacco smell good. The only cigar smoke I've encountered that actually smelled pleasant was smoke from a really expensive cigar.

To me, most cigar smoke smells a little bit like shit. Literally. I'm not kidding. My dad got into this cigar smoking kick for awhile back in the 1990s. He'd smoke while driving in this old Chevy Silverado my parents still own. The cigar smoke made the inside of that truck smell like turds. Thankfully the shit smell dissipated after he quit the cigar thing.

Personally, I'm not into smoking anything. I don't give one damn at all if the government keeps hiking sin taxes on cigarettes either. They can make it $100 per pack or just ban it for all I care. I can't get the image out of my head how my mother's father looked when he was dying of lung cancer. Near the end the doctors removed his left lung. Yeah. That made smoking look really cool to me. Not.
 
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 02-10-2011, 01:29 AM:
 
When I was home over the Christmas/New Year's break, we had a big dinner celebration for my brother's birthday. He enjoys cigars, so his wife booked a big table at The Humidor in Nassau, where the Greycliff cigars are made.

The waiting room was adjacent to the room where the cigars are actually rolled.

It smelled like fertilizer. [bs]
 
Posted by John Wilson (Member # 269) on 02-10-2011, 03:38 PM:
 
quote: Joe Redifer
I would think that the deodorant industry would fail simply because all are worse smells than B.O.
NOTHING is worse than B.O. [puke]
 
Posted by Manny Knowles (Member # 1171) on 02-10-2011, 07:38 PM:
 
Really?

What are YOU smokin' ????
 
Posted by Dave Macaulay (Member # 813) on 02-12-2011, 06:36 PM:
 
I like a Cohiba Corona Especial occasionally. Very nice.
Sorry about you yanks who can't get them.
 




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