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Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 04-19-2011, 09:17 PM:

I just had the opportunity to pick up some 355ml glass bottles of Mexican Coca-Cola. I have to say, it does taste different. A little less sour or fizzy than American Coke.

I do like the glass bottle and metal cap that needs a bottle opener.

I did pay $2.47 per bottle for this treat.

Anyone a fan?

Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 04-19-2011, 09:27 PM:

Bottled coke (at least to me) has always had a slightly different taste than plastic or aluminum does. But that might just be me!

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 04-19-2011, 09:33 PM:

I believe the drink bottled in Mexico is sweetened with sugar whereas the stuff bottled in the US is sweetened with high-fructose corn syrup...

I don't drink soft drinks much any more, but when I did, I did like the stuff that came from Mexico better than the local bottler's stuff.

Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 04-19-2011, 09:34 PM:

Paul-

I did forget to mention that the Mexican Coke is sweetened with sugar. But the bottle is also a different experience than the plastic one.

Posted by Ron Funderburg (Member # 4561) on 04-19-2011, 09:37 PM:

on soft-drinks I have always liked Root Beer the best! Coke is second and Pepsi is a very far distant third. My drinks of choice are coffee and hot tea. Now if the Mexican coke had the original formula well we would all like it better and be oh so addicted to it!!!

You can still fin dsome bottle coke in bottles but few and far between and usually the little ones.

Posted by Caleb Johnstone-Cowan (Member # 3710) on 04-19-2011, 09:44 PM:

I prefer Coke in glass bottles, or as post-mix, but it is so much more expensive here than a can or plastic bottle.

We get Coke from all over Europe in London, but the British version tastes the best. Not seen Mexican Coke yet though I'm sure you can buy it somewhere.

Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 04-19-2011, 09:44 PM:

For you guys in America.

Does the ingredients say "sugar/glucose-fructose" or does it say "High Fructose Corn Syrup" in your regular plastic bottled Coke?

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 04-19-2011, 09:47 PM:

Real sugar in Mexican Coke, just like Europe.

Smoother, and foams like it did back in the 50s. Louis

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-19-2011, 10:15 PM:

quote: Tom Petrov
Does the ingredients say "sugar/glucose-fructose" or does it say "High Fructose Corn Syrup" in your regular plastic bottled Coke?

High-Fructose Corn Syrup.

Also, at least here in the States they sell 6-packs of small (8-to-10 ounce) bottles of Coke that are flavored with HFCS. It's weird seeing bottled Coke that's flavored with that since I'm used to having the Mexican-imported ones available.

And Pepsi has its own sugar-sweetened variety both in "Pepsi Throwback" which doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon (despite being labelled by Pepsi as a "limited time" thing) although I did stop at one gas station here in town that had bottled Mexican Pepsi that was made w/ regular cane sugar.

(though I really want to find some "New Coke." I don't remember the difference)

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-19-2011, 10:33 PM:

From what I have read, regular Coke® IS New Coke® and Diet Coke® tastes more like the original Coke® than current non-diet Coke®.

Posted by Edward Havens (Member # 4715) on 04-19-2011, 11:23 PM:

Coke makes a cane-sugar version of their signature drink for Passover. Just look for the yellow plastic bottle caps in your local stores.

Posted by Sam D. Chavez (Member # 1841) on 04-19-2011, 11:24 PM:

It's Cane sugar.

Posted by James Wallor (Member # 6154) on 04-20-2011, 01:14 AM:

Mexi-coke is amazing, however not worth the price all the time.

I would love to have Pepsi Throwback in a glass bottle, I'm very curious as to what that tastes like.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 04-20-2011, 11:23 AM:

Course, the best sodas are from the tap on the rocks with systems purifying the water for the syrup and ice along with the right brix mix.

Just like with milk from glass bottles: purist form to contain any fluid since no leaching from the container goes into the product.

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 04-20-2011, 12:44 PM:

The problem is all the sweetened fountain sodas in the United States are sweetened with HFCS. While the fountain drinks may taste good once mixed with carbonated water, the syrup by itself is NASTY!

One of my high school night jobs was kitchen work in the Staff NCO Club in Quantico, VA (Marine Corps base). One evening someone dropped and broken open a box of Coke syrup. The thick, near black syrup spilled all over the floor. The stuff had a really nasty smell slightly similar to shit. It wasn't easy cleaning it off the floor either.

Posted by Sam Graham (Member # 2889) on 04-20-2011, 01:05 PM:

Mexican bottlers once started following US bottlers in making the switch to cheaper HFCS. Cane sugar is a very important crop to the Mexican economy, so the government imposed a huge tax (25 percent if I remember correctly) on drinks made with HFCS.

So the local bottlers stuck with sugar.

My favorite soda is Dublin Dr Pepper. Named after the world's oldest still-operating plant in Dublin, TX, they never switched to HFCS. It's still made with cane sugar. The cans and 8oz glass bottles are actually manufactured at a plant in the Dallas area now (the antique plant in Dublin just does small batches of returnables now).

I make semi-annual trips to Texas just to stock up on it.

Some fountains in Texas and Oklahoma have Dublin Dr Pepper on tap. It's clearly labeled as such.

I also have real sugar A&W, 7-Up, and Cheerwine in my fridge right now. All in glass bottles.

I used to buy Mexican Pepsi at a local Mexican grocer, but stopped when Throwback came along because there's no discernible difference in taste.

Posted by Bruce Hansen (Member # 281) on 04-20-2011, 05:30 PM:

Here in the US, we subsidize corn, making high fattening corn syrup cheep. Other countries arn't that stupid.

I think that the whole coke - new coke - new-old coke thing was all planed, and used to hide the switch from sugar to HFCS. The way coke did it does not fit their marketing concepts. When coke (or pepsi, or other drink maker) comes out with a new drink, they DO NOT get rid of the old drink. When coke came out with coke zero, they did not get rid of diet coke, etc. This alowes coke to take over more space on store shelves, and edge out the compatition. As long as something is selling, it will not be canceled. People who stocked up on old coke before it was canceled, compaired old coke to new-old coke, and said that they tasted differnt, and that new-old coke was not as good.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-20-2011, 07:22 PM:

quote:
From what I have read, regular Coke® IS New Coke® and Diet Coke® tastes more like the original Coke® than current non-diet Coke®

New Coke was formulated as taking the mixture for Diet Coke and replacing the aspartame with HFCS. And I believe they've left Diet Coke alone since the beginning.

quote: Sam Graham
Mexican bottlers once started following US bottlers in making the switch to cheaper HFCS. Cane sugar is a very important crop to the Mexican economy, so the government imposed a huge tax (25 percent if I remember correctly) on drinks made with HFCS.

I believe as mentioned above, it's more to do with us subsidizing corn and them not. Although maybe Mexico subsidizes sugar cane. Though I think it's telling that we're pretty much the only country with these types of drinks primarily sweetened with HFCS. I don't think everyone subsidizes sugar cane. [Wink]

quote: Bruce Hansen
I think that the whole coke - new coke - new-old coke thing was all planed, and used to hide the switch from sugar to HFCS. The way coke did it does not fit their marketing concepts. When coke (or pepsi, or other drink maker) comes out with a new drink, they DO NOT get rid of the old drink. When coke came out with coke zero, they did not get rid of diet coke, etc. This alowes coke to take over more space on store shelves, and edge out the compatition. As long as something is selling, it will not be canceled. People who stocked up on old coke before it was canceled, compaired old coke to new-old coke, and said that they tasted differnt, and that new-old coke was not as good.

I think all this shows is that after the New Coke fiasco, the Coca-Cola people said "Fuck, we're never doing *that* again." Really, everything with New Coke originates from them being bombarded with the commercials showing Pepsi defeating them left-and-right in taste tests and evidence that the younger demographics were choosing Pepsi by-and-large.

Oh and the Coke people sort of ignored that the sipping taste tests favored the higher sweetness of Pepsi while many people enjoyed Coke better when drinking a whole bottle of it simply because it wasn't so massively sweet.

In the end, it really was just them making a stupid decision.

Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 04-20-2011, 08:48 PM:

quote: Monte L Fullmer
with the right brix mix.

I will agree...Coke from a well brixed tower is pretty damn good....but it must have the ice.

Posted by Pravin Ratnam (Member # 1417) on 04-21-2011, 09:33 PM:

I think this HFCS crap is infecting the whole world. When I visited India and Thailand recently, I tasted the coke there. And i remember checking the ingredients. I think they use HFCS too.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 04-21-2011, 11:40 PM:

Damn you, corn industry and your control over everything!

quote: Chris Slycord
New Coke was formulated as taking the mixture for Diet Coke and replacing the aspartame with HFCS.

You need to prove this since you have presented it as fact here. I don't need to prove my statement since I said "From what I have read".

Posted by Edward Havens (Member # 4715) on 04-25-2011, 03:28 AM:

The Snopes page for New Coke confirms Chris's statement. It also confirms Coke switched from 100% cane sugar to a 50/50 cane sugar/HFCS sweetener mix for American Coca-Cola five years before the introduction of New Coke, and the switch to 100% HFCS in American Coca-Cola happened before the introduction of New Coke.

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/newcoke.asp

Posted by Stephen Furley (Member # 1277) on 04-25-2011, 07:05 AM:

I don't like cola, so never drink it. I do sometimes drink sparkling orange or apple drinks and 'cloudy' lemonade, i.e. the type which actually contains some lemon juice rather than just water, acid, sweetener and gas.

I find the best lemonade is Fentimans, followed by Ben Shaws and Barrs. All drinks sweetened with sugar, either added or just what comes from the fruit taste better than those which use other sweeteners to me, but I have to be careful about drinking it.

Fentimans is available, though not widely, in the US; I don't know about Barrs and Ben Shaws.

Fentimans

Ben Shaws

Barrs

I did notice recently that in one of these, I think it was Barrs, the ingredients were slightly different in cans and bottles; I don't know why.

Posted by Keri Delio (Member # 6170) on 04-25-2011, 04:26 PM:

I only drink soda occasionally (can't handle caffiene) & when I do I drink it sweetened with cane sugar only.
Anyone else here a fan of the Dr. Pepper in bottles from Dublin, Tx sweetened with cane sugar? It tastes great!

Posted by Jim Cassedy (Member # 4115) on 04-25-2011, 05:57 PM:

You can buy individual bottles at many Mexican restaurants &
taco trucks here in California, but I've been buying this stuff
by the case from a local beverage distributor for years.

But they don't display or advertise it in any way in their store.
They have it hidden in a back room and you have to ask for it,
and you have to pay cash. It's almost like a drug deal!

I' ve been told that it's because selling Mexi-coke in the US
technically violates some part of their distributorship
contract with the Coca Cola company.

Albert-The-Cat, Carefully
Guarding My Mexican Coke Stash

Also, I've found you can get Chinese Coca-Cola here in
Chinatown. These cans are not 'bottled' here in the US,
they're actually imported from both Taiwan & Hong Kong.

I'm not sure if the China-Coke is made with cane sugar or
HFCS, since the ingredients are listed in Chinese. They
taste like the Mexi-coke, with MSG added. [Roll Eyes]

My favorite soda, however, is STEWART's "Old Fashioned
Cream Soda", which is only available in glass bottles.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 04-25-2011, 10:20 PM:

And on sodas from Mexico, Jarritos makes a lot of delicious sodas. I've liked the tamarind, orange, fruit punch, and grapefuit flavors although I didn't care as much for the hibiscus-flavored one that they called "Jamaica." I think they have more varieties that the store across from my place didn't carry.

The tamarind one is especially awesome. Perfect combo of sweet and sour.

Posted by Sam Graham (Member # 2889) on 04-26-2011, 08:21 AM:

In my Alaskan childhood (early teens), some of the kids used to catch salmon and take it down to the Japanese lumber ships at the spruce mill and trade the crew members for Japanese Coca-Cola (long skinny cans) and Japanese cigarettes.

It was an easy way to fund their vices.

quote: Chris Slycord
I didn't care as much for the hibiscus-flavored one that they called "Jamaica."

I love Jamaica-flavored Kool-Aid.

Posted by Ed Alvarado (Member # 2760) on 04-29-2011, 09:47 AM:

its funny how this makes me laugh because i live in Texas and i went to a small burger shack and they actually have on the menu MEXICAN COKE. and at first i couldn't hold it in because i thought of it as if they were calling it a drug but then it hits me that they meant the drink. sorry i just thought this was funny but anyways its true the bottled drinks do have a better taste and the Peps drinks from MEXICO!! are soo sweet and yummy. but the price is rather high but its worth it i mean i pay $5 alone for a freaking frappachino so why not $2.75 for a bottle Pepsi drink. oh and its even better when purchasing an expensive soda with over priced taco's at a unknown sanitary taco van for late night munchies.

Posted by Aaron Sisemore (Member # 145) on 05-01-2011, 04:26 AM:

quote:
Pepsi has its own sugar-sweetened variety both in "Pepsi Throwback" which doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon (despite being labeled by Pepsi as a "limited time" thing)

Pepsi and Dew Throwback as well as Sierra Mist Natural are no longer 'Limited Time' items and are a permanent part of the Pepsi product line. Unfortunately none of them will be going to fountains (I asked about it at CinemaCon) [Frown]

Posted by Steve Guttag (Member # 268) on 05-01-2011, 09:22 AM:

Though I'm not much of a soda drinker anymore...I can attest...Mountain Dew - Throwback has the taste of Mountain-Dew of my youth and it is far superior to the standard flavor of today.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 05-01-2011, 11:36 AM:

And since they randomly had it at my local Costco, I can attest that Dublin Dr Pepper tastes better than regular, with it being sweetened with sugar (specifically, Imperial brand which apparently is based in Texas so that makes sense).

And a little off-topic, but I had a delicious Salvadoran soda called "kolashanpan" that's apparently flavored with fruit from some tree called a mammee (and of course real sugar), although the waitress didn't believe the drink was for me since she'd never heard of a white American ordering it. I just felt like trying something new. Although it's definitely not something I'd try everyday... it had a ton of sugar.

Posted by Tom Petrov (Member # 1534) on 05-15-2011, 01:22 AM:

Tried Mexican Pepsi for the first time. I have to say, it also blows away the North American stuff.