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Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-11-2012, 02:36 AM:

And people always say I don't look 42. That's what working in booths for your entire life away from the sun will do to you. [Cool]

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Shocking Proof That the Sun Makes You Age Prematurely

This guy is 69 years old, but half of his face looks much, much older than that. He was a trucker and, for 28 years, his face received much more sunlight on the left side, resulting on premature aging.

We all knew that being exposed to the sun makes you age prematurely, but seeing the dramatic difference in a single face is just stunning.

His condition is called unilateral dermatoheliosis, from the Greek dermis and helios, skin and sun. It's also called photoaging, and it results from chronic exposure to the sun's UVA and UVB rays. In his case, it only affected the left side of his face because of his work. As he drove, he received much many hours of sunlight through the left window of his vehicle.

The case was discovered and studied by Jennifer R.S. Gordon and Joaquin C. Brieva, dermatologists at Northwestern University, and published in the New England Journal of Medicine:

A 69-year-old man presented with a 25-year history of gradual, asymptomatic thickening and wrinkling of the skin on the left side of his face. The physical examination showed hyperkeratosis with accentuated ridging, multiple open comedones, and areas of nodular elastosis. Histopathological analysis showed an accumulation of elastolytic material in the dermis and the formation of milia within the vellus hair follicles. Findings were consistent with the Favre–Racouchot syndrome of photodamaged skin, known as dermatoheliosis.

The patient reported that he had driven a delivery truck for 28 years. Ultraviolet A (UVA) rays transmit through window glass, penetrating the epidermis and upper layers of dermis. Chronic UVA exposure can result in thickening of the epidermis and stratum corneum, as well as destruction of elastic fibers. This photoaging effect of UVA is contrasted with photocarcinogenesis.

Since UVB and UVA can cause DNA mutations leading to skin cancer, the doctors recommended their patient to use sun protection and topical retinoids, as well as periodic monitoring for the apparition of skin cancer.

As the summer starts, this is a perfect reminder of the negative effects of excessive suntanning. If the risk of skin cancer is not enough for you, perhaps knowing that the sun will accelerate your ageing by a decade or two will stop you from being careless. Remember, if you are going to be exposed to the sun in any way—even if you are not at the beach or a swimming pool—use protection. [NEJM]

Posted by Melanie Loggins (Member # 6454) on 06-11-2012, 09:03 AM:

I've known it was evil since I was 9 and the first time I got sunburned I got blisters. Stupid pale skin. Stupid burning ball in the sky. I might as well run a movie theatre because I'm going to be hiding inside anyway. The summer weather is so "nice"? No. It's not. It's hot and it's trying to give us cancer and wrinkles.

Posted by Louis Bornwasser (Member # 3063) on 06-11-2012, 11:45 AM:

Guess I'll go get my 29 year old unmarried daughter out of the tanning bed. Louis

Posted by Jim Henk (Member # 3628) on 06-11-2012, 11:52 AM:

I have visions of a nefarious villain torturing our hero: "Minion, put him in the tanning bed... Tell me where the Uranium is! Or I will prematurely age you! Bwaa ha haaa!"

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 06-11-2012, 12:06 PM:

As probably the only tourist in the history of Ireland to get a sunburn, I have avoided the sun since we moved from Hawaii in 1970.

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 06-11-2012, 04:58 PM:

Question: isn't glass supposed to filter out UV due to it's higher frequency, yet allow low freq IR to pass through?

Don't cuss out the sun, for being out it in moderation, is actually very healthy for you... (but, who knows about moderation anyway - seems society likes tanned skinned people, which in a way, puts skin in a horrible trauma), thus wear a hat when outside and protect the skin.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-11-2012, 05:43 PM:

Damn I'm so glad I don't generally like being outside for extended periods. But then why do the old people who used to work in the booth always look ancient beyond rival? My guess is that they used to work on farms or some such. Or maybe they got too much sun while picketing theaters.

quote: Brad Miller
And people always say I don't look 42.

You're 42, huh? I guess you are. The last time I asked your age you were also telling me the ages of Dwayne and Jeremy and you replied with "I'm the old fart at 28".

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 06-11-2012, 05:57 PM:

Well, these days 28 IS an old fart so he was at least half right.

Posted by Sam D. Chavez (Member # 1841) on 06-11-2012, 06:16 PM:

Joe says.

"Or maybe they got too much sun while picketing theaters".

That's a mighty funny in a mean sort of way. Couldn't help LOL though.

I think the correct answer is smoking in the booth from sheer boredom.

Posted by Chris Slycord (Member # 4239) on 06-11-2012, 06:28 PM:

Or from adding cue marks... [Wink]

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-11-2012, 07:11 PM:

quote: Sam D. Chavez
I think the correct answer is smoking in the booth from sheer boredom.

Ah yes, I didn't even think about that.

Posted by Robert E. Allen (Member # 1351) on 06-11-2012, 08:07 PM:

I have wondered why people tell me I don't look my age. Now I think I can credit booth and theatre work for that. My photo on the left is about 2 years old. I turned 80 this past April.

Posted by Sean Weitzel (Member # 244) on 06-11-2012, 09:19 PM:

And I look exactly like my 37 year old lumberjack self. Brad will you ever instate a rule where we have to keep our profile pictures current? Mine is only a year old but your shirt and tie pic there makes you look no more than a day over 39! [Cool]

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* maybe 25 in that photo? just a guess?? you still look very much the same when I last saw you in Jan 2010.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-11-2012, 10:54 PM:

I'd bet that Brad is 38 or 39 in his current picture.

This is Brad when he was younger:

Text = not mine

Posted by Brad Miller (Member # 2) on 06-11-2012, 11:47 PM:

I see Joe is dredging up old Phil Hill pics again.

RIP Phil. You will never be forgotten on this board. [Wink]

Posted by Sam D. Chavez (Member # 1841) on 06-12-2012, 12:59 AM:

Is this a picture of Phil, or just from his collection?

Either way, Priceless!

Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 06-12-2012, 01:32 AM:

quote: Martin McCaffery
As probably the only tourist in the history of Ireland to get a sunburn, I have avoided the sun since we moved from Hawaii in 1970.

Northern Europe doesn't get prolonged and intense sunlight very often, but it's by no means unheard of. And it's all the more dangerous when it does happen, because we're not expecting it and thus are not prepared for it. It's a similar syndrome to the infamous wrong kind of snow: because really extreme weather is very unusual, it's not worth the cost of being prepared for it, and so when it does happen it hits us a lot harder than other parts of the world where it's routine and therefore they have the means to deal with it. So when you do get very sunny periods, the media warn us over and over again about the sunburn risk, and of course the streets are full of people who look like they just stepped out of a microwave within a couple of days of the hot spell starting.

Interesting that the guy in the story Brad posted was a trucker, hence the skin damage on one side. Long drives in Southern California tend to make my pallid, northern European complexion go like a prune, too. I think part of it is that pretty much all cars in the US have air conditioning, and it's so effective that you get the sunlight without the heat while driving, and so I tend not to think about the sunburn risk.

Posted by Paul Mayer (Member # 355) on 06-12-2012, 10:47 AM:

Like truckers, pilots too face the same issue - long hours of exposure to the sun, made more intense for pilots by the thinner atmosphere at high altitudes. Many pilots wear long-sleeve shirts even on the hottest days just to have a little extra UV protection. You can sometimes tell what position a pilot has been flying by noting which side of the face is more tanned. Pilots have fairly high rates of skin cancer as well, compared to other lines of work.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-12-2012, 03:01 PM:

quote:
Is this a picture of Phil, or just from his collection?

Either way, Priceless!

I don't think they had invented cameras yet when Phil was a kid. [Big Grin]

I may have gotten it from him, I'm not sure. Seems like something he'd send. But it's been on my computer since 2002 according to the file creation date.

Posted by Doug Thompson (Member # 6546) on 06-13-2012, 08:03 AM:

It's hard to see on my smart ass phone, but that projector looks like a 500 series B&H. I have a 535 modified for xenon.

Posted by Bill Enos (Member # 440) on 06-13-2012, 03:00 PM:

Plain glass filters just about 100% of UV. He must have driven all those years with the window down.

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 06-13-2012, 03:45 PM:

quote:
Is this a picture of Phil, or just from his collection?

Either way, Priceless!

Looks like Olpin to me. [Big Grin]

AJG

Posted by Melanie Loggins (Member # 6454) on 06-13-2012, 04:53 PM:

quote: Bill
Plain glass filters just about 100% of UV. He must have driven all those years with the window down.

I've always heard this, that you don't get sunburned through glass. But I am extremely fair and burn easily and I have gotten burned through car windows my whole life.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 5226) on 06-13-2012, 06:00 PM:

I think we all need a bit of sunshine, not to much though. Most projectionists I have come across are a bit "screwy" and I put this down to spending to much time in the projection room.

Without a bit of sunshine and fresh air, over time you could turn into a Morlock....remember "The Time Machine"

Posted by Monte L Fullmer (Member # 2797) on 06-15-2012, 04:40 AM:

......looks like my B&H 552 with the chrome plating over the lamp cover....

Posted by Leo Enticknap (Member # 534) on 06-18-2012, 02:52 PM:

quote: Melanie Loggins
I've always heard this, that you don't get sunburned through glass. But I am extremely fair and burn easily and I have gotten burned through car windows my whole life.

Me too. If plain glass will filter UV, then are the UV filters you buy for your camera lens just a sheet of window glass? I've just looked at mine and it does appear to have some sort of a coating on one side.

I suppose it could be the heat rather than the light that is doing some of the damage when you're driving in strong sunlight. If you've got the aircon running then that doesn't mean that the heat is not there; only that it's being dissipated faster.

Posted by Joe Redifer (Member # 3) on 06-18-2012, 06:09 PM:

quote: Graham Ritchie
Most projectionists I have come across are a bit "screwy" and I put this down to spending to much time in the projection room.

Nah. It's just that working in the projection booth appeals to those who are already "screwy".