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Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 12-01-2015, 02:40 PM:

I will miss the Fox logo with their awesome Alfred Newman fanfare and CinemaScope extention on the new Star Wars film but I think Disney opening wili be more subtle. I think STAR WARS - The Force Awakens will open with both the Disney and LucasFilm logos with no sound. Once the two logos are shown, the original John Williams theme will open the film with the main title and scroll like all the previous films.

- Claude

Posted by Michael Putlack (Member # 6523) on 12-01-2015, 03:09 PM:

Bob Iger has said there will be no Disney logo and that the LucasFilm logo will be played with their new fanfare.

http://screencrush.com/no-disney-logo-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

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Iger spoke to a group of students at Ithaca College’s Roy H. Park School of Communications (Iger’s alma mater) via Skype on October 7. While he obviously couldn’t talk much about Star Wars: The Force Awakens, he did tell the students that there would be no Disney logo on the film, only the Lucasfilm fanfare. When asked why, he said it was “for the fans.”

Here is a link to the new fanfare too!

Posted by Terry Monohan (Member # 8285) on 12-01-2015, 04:12 PM:

The new Lucas film logo looks cheap for a big studio that does fancy effects and sound. You would think they would have come up with something way better. Maybe they are on a tight budget these days.

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 12-01-2015, 05:47 PM:

Lucas Film is now a part of the Walt Disney Company just like Pixar is and they have a lot of money.

-Claude

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-01-2015, 07:12 PM:

"For the fans," baloney. They're doing it the same way they're doing the Marvel films and the Touchstone films, leaving the Disney name off of it. But at the end it will say "Distributed by Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures.

They know that the Disney logo isn't appropriate for this film. They save the Disney logo for their family films.

Posted by Claude S. Ayakawa (Member # 1401) on 12-01-2015, 09:36 PM:

Disney does not own Marvel. They only distribute their films. Disney also does not own Dreamworks Pictures but they are now distributing their pictures. Touchtone pictures like Hollywood Pictures have been a subsidiary of Disney for years and Disney owns them. I see nothing wrong with Disney putting distribution credit at the end of all the movies they distributes. . Pixar movies are the only one that open with the Walt Disney Logo before the Pixar Lamp logo.

-Claude

Posted by Justin Hamaker (Member # 2165) on 12-01-2015, 09:57 PM:

It's going to be very strange not seeing the Fox fanfare at the beginning of a Star Wars. For me the two are forever linked.

Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 12-01-2015, 10:22 PM:

isn't Dreamworks part of Fox, well for the animated movies I thought.

It's too bad, Marvel and Pixar don't have more say in how their movies are released on bluray from Disney - Disney's reluctance in not releasing Atmos mixes on bluray is bonkers. Hope LucasFilms has some weight in mandating the blu of 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' includes the Dolby Atmos mix.

Posted by Daniel Schulz (Member # 1881) on 12-02-2015, 12:33 AM:

quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
Disney does not own Marvel. They only distribute their films. Disney also does not own Dreamworks Pictures but they are now distributing their pictures.

Actually Disney does own Marvel; they acquired Marvel Entertainment (which included among other divisions Marvel Studios) in 2009. Much like they now also own outright Pixar and Lucasfilm.

quote: Jonathan Goeldner
Isn't Dreamworks part of Fox, well for the animated movies I thought.

Confusingly there are *two* different DreamWorks. DreamWorks SKG produces live-action films. They have bounced around with different distributors over the years; currently Disney distributes their films domestically.

DreamWorks Animation is a totally different company (publicly traded, actually), with Jeff Katzenberg as their CEO. Fox distributes DWA titles both theatrically and for home video.

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 12-02-2015, 03:50 AM:

This is not for the fans

Seriously, it's a pathetic, cheap, quick, and dirty attempt. I really hope Iger doesn't know what he's talking about and JJ surprises us with something much better.

If all else fails, once it his Blu-ray, fans are going to add the Fox logo and Fanfare on to the beginning of the film. I know I probably will.

AJG

Posted by Mike Schulz (Member # 4297) on 12-02-2015, 04:13 AM:

There is no pleasing some people. Iger's decision to have only the Lucasfilm logo at the beginning *should* be a good thing but I have a feeling a lot of people complaining about this won't be satisfied unless there is literally a FOX logo with the FOX fanfare at the beginning which, of course, is completely unrealistic.

Just remember that it's the Fox fanfare, not the Star Wars fanfare.

Also, why should we assume the hacked together fanfare they used on a digital-only release recently will be the same one used at the beginning of The Force Awakens? Surely they will clean that up a bit at the very least but I'd put my money on hearing something completely different that John Williams has put together specifically for the new Lucasfilm productions.

Posted by Jonathan Goeldner (Member # 4854) on 12-02-2015, 09:13 AM:

^ it's just that the two have become so symbiotic - the fanfare, slight pause... dah-dah 'Star Wars theme.. oh well

Posted by Bobby Henderson (Member # 840) on 12-02-2015, 11:37 AM:

A different intro is the least of my worries about this new Star Wars film. J.J. Abrams has made some really baffling creative choices in his previous 4 directorial efforts, 2 of which involved crapping all over the Star Trek saga. Hopefully Lawrence Kasdan and Michael Arndt (who co-wrote the script with Abrams) have been able to limit the nonsense.

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 12-02-2015, 12:32 PM:

Nothing like getting everyone hyped up to see the movie, sitting them down in the theater with all of their excitement, and then immediately starting the movie off on the wrong foot. Nice job, Disney.

LICENSE THE FAN FARE MUSIC FROM FOX.

It's not that hard. Make a phone call.

Posted by Mike Blakesley (Member # 26) on 12-02-2015, 02:37 PM:

Why in the hell should they do that? Like somebody stated above, it's not the Star Wars fanfare. It's the Fox fanfare. Why should Disney pay to put somebody else's name on their product?

If anything, Fox should make the phone call and offer to pay Disney to put the logo on "for the fans."

If it wasn't for the Internet, this wouldn't even be an issue. People getting all worked up over absolutely nothing. If not for the internet, the movie would start rolling and after it was over a couple of people would say "Hey, it didn't have the Fox logo and music." Their friends would say "It didn't??!" and maybe a few would see the movie a second time to check it out.

It would be a simple matter though for any movie theater to get a Star Wars Blu-Ray and make their own Fox fanfare DCP to play ahead of the movie. (and pump up the bass on that, while they're at it.) Disney would be powerless to stop that.

quote: Claude S. Ayakawa
Pixar movies are the only one that open with the Walt Disney Logo before the Pixar Lamp logo.

Right, because Pixar movies fit in with the Walt Disney Pictures brand, whereas Touchstone and Marvel (and now Lucasfilm) movies don't.

Posted by Martin McCaffery (Member # 37) on 12-02-2015, 03:31 PM:

They should license the Law & Order "BumpDum" sound instead. At least as recognizable as the Fox Fanfare and over quicker.

Posted by Aaron Garman (Member # 1653) on 12-02-2015, 06:04 PM:

quote: Mike Blakesley
It would be a simple matter though for any movie theater to get a Star Wars Blu-Ray and make their own Fox fanfare DCP to play ahead of the movie. (and pump up the bass on that, while they're at it.) Disney would be powerless to stop that.

I like this idea. [Smile]

Posted by Mark J. Marshall (Member # 1409) on 12-02-2015, 06:24 PM:

Because it's freakin' Star Wars, Mike, and it would be a cool thing to do. You yourself said in another thread that it would be cool if they did that so don't pretend you don't know why.

I know they probably won't do it because they don't understand the significance of it, nor the idea of going an extra step and doing something special that breaks the rules a little bit to have a bit of fun.

I do like your idea of sticking something in front of the movie manually. Even if just on opening night as a treat to the fans. It would have been easy to do in the DTS 35mm days too. Every trailer disk had the fanfare on it.