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Topic: Whats your favorite xenon bulb brand?
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-18-2001 02:15 AM
Barry, I have heard one ignition is equivilant to about 45 minutes to an hour or more of actual running time. I think it also depends on the quality of the bulb being used as well as the type of power supply and its condition. Some of it may depend on the igniter itself.Some will probably disagree with me, but that is what I have heard. Your comment is not to far off. As the bulb gets older, it gets harder to strike. Sometimes the igniter sounds like it is splattering crap all over the place. Obviously, this might be equivilant to several hours per strike. I'll bet that you'll get a more accurate answer from the bulb manufacturers. Paul
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Paul G. Thompson
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posted 12-19-2001 10:51 PM
Was advised today the Q-ARC XQ 3000H/S lamps had a "bad production run", and was also advised to take orginal spare we received in July out of service immediately.So far, we lost two reflectors to Q-Arc bulb explosions in the Strong Super Lumex lamphouses in the last three months or so. That bulb is in service, as it replaced the one that blew up in No. 2 with 349 hours or so. Both bulbs were part of the July batch we received. I am going to replace them with 2500-Watt bulbs from either Christie or Hanovia, whichever I can get my paws on. Paul
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Paul G. Thompson
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posted 12-20-2001 10:30 PM
Pat:Thanks for the input. At 100 amps with the switcher power supply, the load voltage is about 25 volts. This gives 2500 watts. That is about 100 watts above the minimum requirement for the 3000 watt lamp. (presuming the figure of 80% is still valid for manufacturer's recommendation) It would seem to me that after a xenon lamp ages (about 1000 hours or so) ignition may become a little harder. I have observed this in our lamphouses. Of course, with the Strong igniter, it'll make practically anything strike.  If a 3000-watt bulb is used, there is no headroom to compensate for bulb aging in our system. Just my thoughts.....Do they make sense? Paul
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William Bunch
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From: Misawa, Japan
Registered: Nov 2001
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posted 12-21-2001 02:14 AM
I wish we could get OSRAM but have to settle for ORC. We use 2000 and 3000 watt in the L.P.A. lamphouses with L.P.A. reactor power supplies. We have had some "bad batches" over the years that had me going around changing capacitors and tighening wires, etc. Most likely unnecessary. But for the most part the ORCs perform well. Only two explosions of the 50 in use and those were due to improper handling or insufficient cooling. Our theaters only run one or two features a night then the bulbs are resting. But we usually get over 2000 hours without problems. We do changeovers in all theaters and leave the bulbs on for the whole performance. We disabled the "simmer" mode in the LPA units many years ago. Somebody said the lamps would last longer without it. I never noticed any difference. But there are some name changes of late. Anybody know how that affects the final product? At first it was ORC provided by L.P.A. then just ORC. Now I see it is Perkin Elmer. But the address is always the same. ?? Whenever a theater calls and says they have a hard-to-start lamp I always check the weather map first. Seems the ignighters on these LPAs rely on a spark gap that is affected by barometric pressure. So if there is a typhoon in your area be sure to turn your power on early. Quirky..Yes? Bill BuncH Misawa, Japan
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 12-21-2001 01:56 PM
I have done shoot outs with Christie lamps even Osram vs Christie....the Christie has NEVER, and I mean NEVER lost. The Christie lamp always lasts the longest and remains flicker free longer. They also individually test there lamps and their lamp test cards always agree with my measurements...most other lamp manufacturers rubber stamp their lamp test cards and they are all effectively the same. When a Christie lamp has a card that says at 100 amps it will be 29.6 volts...that is what I measure too. Christie also has an huge current range that works well with them on any given size. The only quirk I have had with them is on some igniters they are harder to strike. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999
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posted 12-22-2001 01:51 PM
>>I heard ORC went out of business...just what I heard though.<<They didnt really 'go out of business', they were victims of a merger and a resilting spinoff. -Optical Radiation Corp. (ORC) was absorbed by EG&G Technologies around 1996. Shortly before this (1995, IIRC) ORC sold its Cinema Products Division (except the bulbs) to Ballantyne. -In 1999, EG&G spun off its optoelectronics division (including ORC) to PerkinElmer. PerkinElmer has not been known for doing things right the first time: They were the makers of the mirror that doomed the Hubble Space Telescope... I'll Stick to my Osram and Christie xenons, thank you. I have even seen a CHINESE(!) generic bulb hold up better than an ORC/PE... :O -Aaron
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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posted 02-24-2002 07:07 PM
Well, the last of the Q-ARC bulbs finally died. Had a total of 578 hours on it. Not too bad, since the other two blew up.  This one just decided to go "Pbpthbpthbthp!" in the middle of the show. We only lost two shows.....two too many. While I was at it, I decided to change the mirror that was demolished in the last Q-Arc explosion....and showed it to our popcorn salespeople with a comment that this is what someone's face might look like if the bulb blew up while changing it. If I can get a good picture of the mirror, I'll send it to Brad and maybe he might post it. This is the worse mirror I have seen. Hopefully, it'll keep the personnel out of the lamphouse unless they are fully qualified and have the protective clothing to change a xenon bulb. Paul
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