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Author Topic: Marking Reel Changes Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-22-2001 02:57 PM                     That was too long ago. I have moved on. Get a life.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-22-2001 03:20 PM                     Not to be pushy here, but if that was indeed happening to at least ONE type of cue detector, I'd really like to know whatever info you could find about it, Ian. Being that we all still run film, the guys here are discussing various methods of marking reel changes and most of us use some form of cue detector, I don't consider this outdated technology that we should "move on" from.  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-22-2001 06:15 PM                     When we used the silver marking pen our executives with the in-house screening rooms reported that their machines were turning off after the first reel. When we stopped using the silver marking pen the problem stopped. They were using the standard Kelmar cue detectors. That's all I know. I never verified the problem, I never witnessed the problem.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-22-2001 06:59 PM                     was that the kelmar roller type or prox type If it is the roller type that is odd as I tried a continuity test on some and it didn't conduct  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 11-22-2001 08:18 PM                     I wouldn't recomment purposly trying to use a marker or paint pen or something like that to make the cues. Remember, every theatre is set up differently. An inboard cue may be a lens change or a house lights cue at one location, but it could be the shutdown cue at another location. And that is why, as courtesy, I always remove my cues when breaking down. I greatly appreciate when the operator who used a print before me has done the same.  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 11-22-2001 08:25 PM                     I've had the silver markers trip Kelmar roller-type failsafes before. The kind with the inboard and outboard and cross cues. That's all I can tell you, 'cause it was ten years ago. I thought I was gonna be slick with a festival print that was supposed to play in two houses at the same time. My plan was foiled. unintentional pun And before you yell at me for messing up a festival print, I was young and stupid and it came right off with a little Renovex.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-23-2001 01:03 AM                        I think the best person to ask about he silver marking pen/cue problem would be Gary Stanley. Unfortunately he hasn't registered, but I'm sure he'd have some interesting information about it.  |  IP: Logged Andy Muirhead Master Film Handler Posts: 323 From: Galashiels, Scotland Registered: Dec 2000 posted 11-23-2001 07:11 PM                     A good tip for cueing prints is to place splicing tape over the area first, then add the cue. That way the next place can just peel off the tape and cue. I usually find that removing cues otherwise can be messy because the adhesive on the cue really sticks to the print. Otherwise i either have to cut a frame out, or treat with some unidentifiable stuff called 'Duck Oil' that usually removes the stickyness. And what is the score with the many films i get that has a cue running about 8 frames on the edge, and folded over both sides? Honestly i don't have a problem getting prints already cued up, i'll find them and get rid of them and to be honest i expect them, but these massive 8-framers really get me. Is somebody just trying to make sure - stand up people that use these cues, cos i am just a bit curious!  |  IP: Logged Craig Hanham Film Handler Posts: 79 From: Wellington, New Zealand Registered: Oct 2001 posted 11-23-2001 08:58 PM                     When it comes to marking prints I dont have any problems since I do C/O except for those slobs too lazy to remove their marks. The hours i've spent removing multlple automation, breakdown and other marks along with redoing sloppy tape splices makes me wonder about peoples sense of finesse and responsibility. I dont care what you do, as long as I dont see it. Isn't the whole point to do what works for you and then send the print on as if it was never in your hands, except for being in better condition where possible?  |  IP: Logged

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