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Brad Miller
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I must agree with Rick. Generally the lens is not the problem. However, I have seen the set screw come loose on a Simplex. On a Simplex an operator can easily make this adjustment by ear in the booth monitor (or better yet, blasting with the port open.) On most other soundheads, stay away from it. Many problems can simply be tracked down to a dirty cell or gunk on the outer edge of the sound drum, partially blocking the left analog channel and simple stuff like that.

As to the beers, did you know Specialty Products (makers of technician's tool kits) are now making a special beer holder on their flaps? Engineers will now be able to carry that all-important beer wherever they go with their tools. That way there is no need to hide the beers in the water circulators!

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Gordon McLeod
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For the beers do they make a deluxe refridgerated version for those jobs where the booth isn't airconditioned. Nothing worse than a warm beer after discovering the loop is backwards
gord

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Rick Long
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Water coolers and air conditioning? Gee, thanks guys, I hadn't thought of that. Saves me from borrowing a lot of ice from the concession stand.
Back to digital problems, the old Simplex souhndhead manuals for the SH-1000 (four-star) soundheads (similar to the Five-Star, but built better), used to recommend putting the sound impeadance roller in the un-locked (thread) position overnight to prevent the occurance of a "flat spot on the roller which might cause a slight warble in the sound until this flat spot rolls itself out. (Sort of like nylon tires in cold weather).
Given the Dolby digital tracks suseptibility to "vertical jitter", I wonder if this practice should again be adopted. Here in Toronto, with the Union contract being what it is, projectionists are often told to go home before the last performance is completed, thus this task would be left to managers or ushers, some of whom leave a projector running all night with the lamphouse on.
A second item in the old Simplex manuals advocated putting an occassional drop of oil on the pin that locks the impeadance idler in place. This pin is located under the sound drum and is what catches the latch when you close the idler. The purpose of oiling it was to prevent the latteral guide roller from sricking in the wrong position due to friction on this pin.


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Rick Long
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By the way, do you have an address for Specialty Products? Those damn plastic bags break at the most embarassing moments.

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Joe Redifer
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Rick - try running Dolby Digital with the soundhead like you suggest and see what happens. If it does not work, close the latch. No biggie. Plastic bags?

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Brad Miller
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Personally I pull those little nylon idler rollers OUT of there. They do nothing but embedd dirt into the emulsion (when the film is warm and soft, just after being heated by the lamp). A very idiotic design from the 30s I believe...and no one has bothered to change it!

Get yourself a media cleaner rubber insert (intended for the takeup shaft) and cut to size and install in it's place. No more needing to open them up at night, no more possibility of a flat spot and no more dirty films.

Of course, you must do another A-chain. Nothing is easy.

Plastic bags??? Do you have a beer storage trick you're keeping from us?

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Rick Long
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Joe, I meant that the film be run with the impeadance roller closed. Just open it after the last performance. This same proceedure used to be advised for turntables to prevent the same problem.
Plastic bags work if you put the beer in first, then stuff the top of the bag with test loops, S.P.L. meters, ect. Warning - don't put the scope into the bag as well.

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Rick Long
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Of course, the girl behind the candy bar may wonder why you're cooling your test loops with ice.

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Jim Ziegler
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Naaa.. They are probably too clueless to notice, after all, these are the same people who don't notice the popcorn burning.

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Joe Redifer
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And if they ask "What are those cans?" just tell them it is oil. Tell them WD-40 fixes everything. It works best when it is cold. When they point out the fact that you are there to change an exciter bulb, kindly remind them that it is necessary to spray the socket with WD-40 first, and the bulb itself. Works great on xenons!

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Gordon McLeod
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WD40 on xenon bulbs hmm Maybe it works like the antenna greese we used to send the new kid out for it makes the radio wave slip off the mast better
Or the famous film stretcher. Rick will remeber once that I sent a apprentice up to his shop to gett the 1.66:1 film stretcher ( each format does require its own) and him coming back with the heavy commutaor from a Hertner MG set in his trunk quite proud of himself

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Rick Long
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Gord, of course, was the one who advised this same apprentice that the problem of static build-up that occurs when checking film on the rewind bench, could be cured by taking a jumper lead and attaching one end of it to the grounded rewind bench and the other end on the tab of his zipper.

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Brad Miller
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Has anyone else noticed that the same reel of film will track it's best on a cat699 as opposed to a cat700? I find this all the time.

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Martin Frandsen
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My question is about the basement readers for cinemeccanica. I have a vic8 wich i will like to run 'digital'. By reading what you have posted earlyer it depends on wich projector you have. I could of cause buy the penthouse reader ( cat701 ) and get away from nearly all problems except one, that is when the upper reel feeds the film in to the reader it can go thight/slack (varios) is that a VERY big problem?

Thats why i will like to no if the basement readers made by cinemeccanica (in my part of the world) are worth buying?

I have a platter so i COULD of cause skip the upper reel for running digital and purchase a penthouse reader and be happy

So the main question is:
Are the basement readers for vic8 worth buying? do they run with out to many -F-'s?

Another big issue here i will ONLY run film collector prints. They quit often are not all in the best condition. The cat701 will be best for that i think.

A lot of question from me in one post, hopefully with out to many spelling mistakes, i am getting better at it all the time

Any help is very appreciated.

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Brad Miller
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In my opinion, stick with the penthouse. You never know, one day you may get a different projector for yourself and THEN where will you be? You'll have to buy another basement reader!

If you're getting a bounce on your supply reel, then the drag tension or friction pad is usually at fault. Steve Guttag I think is our resident expert here on running reel to reel. Perhaps he will chime in shortly.

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