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Darryl Spicer
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 - posted 09-23-2001 07:51 PM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't look for the splice I feel for it....I also cut out the lab splices that are present from the raw stock...these things look nasty and sound nasty in non digital set ups....I hate the use of shoe polish or anything else used to mark the films other than things designed for that purpose...and do tape both sides of the film when splicing.....that is all part of film done right.

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John Pytlak
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"Film Done Right" is the audience never seeing or hearing the splices.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 09-24-2001 01:23 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I think Gordon just put it best.

Wes, take a look at "Building 101" in the TIPS section below. A simple piece of tape on the flange of the reel will tell you when you are nearing a splice. Once you get toward that mark, you can start slowing the platter down and feel the edges for it to pass through.

No booth should ever use anything other than clear tape. The flash of it (even zebra) is annoying and unprofessional. The human eye can detect even just one frame of a defect. If that wasn't the case, then we would not be able to see dirt on the prints.

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Mike Blakesley
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Agreed on the 'clear' vs. 'opaque' issue. All rolls of opaque tape should be given to the concession stand to tape memos to the wall with. Using only clear tape in the booth is one of the easiest ways to improve presentation without spending any bucks.

Not necessary to use yellow tape even when working with trailers...if anything, they're easier to see the splice because of the long "green" area on each one!

And yep, Neumade tape is my favorite too.


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Bob Healey
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 - posted 09-24-2001 11:58 PM      Profile for Bob Healey   Email Bob Healey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is one thing I would consider using yellow tape for. We show cartoons on 16mm before changing over to 35mm and the main feature. They cartoons arrive 3/reel, with a healthy amount of black leader in between each cartoon. I would consider making a splice with the yellow tape in the middle of the black area to aid in cueing up the appropriate cartoon when the booth lights are off for a show. I would also make sure to COMPLETELY remove the tape before sending the prints back to the distributor.


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Ken Lackner
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I do not like the magenta zebra. Too hard to see. Not much easier to see than the clear, and the purpose of the zebra is to make it easy to see. For me, it's yellow zebra for trailer- and real changes, clear for everything else. And I always make sure I do not cover the theater's primary sound track with the line.

If it were just me doing all the building and breaking down, I'd consider using only clear tape. But you know there are idiots running the booth these days. I'll have to look into CPI's Edge Mark. How do you get a company to send you a sample of their product?

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Ken Lackner
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Beleive it or not, one of the operators at my theatre uses the pink zebra tape to repair damage and lab splices instead of the clear! I asked him about it, and he said that if you use the pink line to COVER THE SOUNDTRACK, it doesn't pop when the splice goes through. Wouldn't adjusting the splicers so there's no gap between frames be a better idea????

Just how anoyed (sp?) does everyone get when they find zebra splices in the middle of a reel?

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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It is extremely annoying to find "reel join identification" splicing tape used for a mid reel repair, especially if the repair is close to a genuine reel join. It can really slow down breaking down a print for ship out.

A quality splicer in good repair will not leave a gap in a butt splice.

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