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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
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 - posted 02-06-2000 04:36 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A Home Depot face mask is OK. I don't think the glass has any real weight, so would not
go through even thin plastic. Since your hands are closer to the bulb, gloves probably should be a little thicker, as there's more force there.

On some lamps, you can leave the protective shield on while installing, but on others you can't. Osrams are good bulbs, but you almost always have to work without the plastic safety case on it. Hanovia (sp?) has a good idea with the thick plastic wrap that can stay on in even small reflectors, then be unwrapped when done.

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Stephen Jones
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 - posted 02-06-2000 07:27 PM      Profile for Stephen Jones   Email Stephen Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Geez Aaron you were certainly had luck on your side that day.I always wear safty gear when changing bulbs even then I am always glad when the job is finished,it is always on my mind when changeing a bulb that it could explode without warning.I have known tech managers that change them without protective gear and they train popcorn people!They stopped doing it when a memo came out saying safety gear must be used,it should have never got to that stage. Some time ago I came across some places that didnt have the correct gear they soon did!

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Aaron Mehocic
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 - posted 02-07-2000 12:45 AM      Profile for Aaron Mehocic   Email Aaron Mehocic   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thank you to all who enquired about my condition. I'm OK, but needless to say, was shook-up for a few minutes on Wednesday night. To answer some of your questions:

HOW DID IT HAPPEN: It was about 10:00 PM and I was changing an ORC XM2000 H/VC bulb out of a Strong Super Lume-X lamphouse. I've done this many times and I am no stranger to the proceedure (partially the reason why I did not feel the need to use a face mask). I unscrewed the bolted negative connection and made double sure that the bolt was loose. At this point, I unbolted the trigger wire from the positive connection and prepared a plastic case to lay the bulb in after removal. As I began to slide the bulb out of the negative connection I noticed it was tight. Immeadiately I realized this not going to be any ordinary change, but figured I could get the bulb out with no serious trouble and still did not feel the need to grab a mask. Slowly I worked it out of the tight connection. The forked bulb support bracket beyond the reflector did concern me as a possible hazard, but I figured I could get the bulb out by being slow and cautious. Suddenly the bulb pushed free and my slow momentum was enough to throw me of balance, thereby pushing the bulb into - you guessed it - the damned support bracket!

WHAT WAS IT LIKE: Imagine standing in a desert during a sand storm and every grain of sand blowing directly into your right shoulder. The explosion actually occurred as I was falling off balance and, oddly, the reflector saved my face from taking the glass that hit my shoulder. I saw the glass shoot out of the access pannel as if it was exiting the mouth of a cannon, very much and very compacted. When the glass hit my shoulder it felt strange at first, like someone touching you with their finger. Then it felt like hundreds of needles just pricking my skin, but not puncturing. I was wearing a regular polo shirt that night. At this point, I felt some chards of glass striking my glasses, maybe six or seven pieces, when a large hunk hit near the edge. I knew it had to be big because it made a hell of a noise when it bounced off the lens. Thats when it hit me that I didn't have a mask on and this shit was hitting my face! I also let out a fairly audible "Ahhhhhhhh!" (that goes without saying).

THE FINAL VERDICT: That above took less than three seconds I'd say. My first reaction was that there must be glass in my eye after all because I could feel something on my eyelashes. I hung my head straight down and walked downstairs to the concession stand for a free eye exam. Everything looked OK and the staff gathered around to marvel what just happend. The manager was surprized that I wasn't cut-up or bleeding profusly. Only two small blood blisters and a cherry red shoulder, LUCKY I'D SAY!

So yes Tim, I support the fact that glasses do save your eyes, because I'm certain that later on that night I would have been in the Emergency Room at Jameson Hospital instead of enjoying an MGD at Bingo's Lounge.

As far a the equipment is concerned, the reflector was undamaged, and since the dowser was closed, no glass was thrown into the projector head.

I hope my little story helps to bring about some of you who don't wear masks. To those of you who do, NOW I KNOW WHY!

Aaron

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Masao Garcia
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As a response to the "you might look silly for a few minutes with all the gear on", I don't really care. We have this ugly puke green (and checkered) apron thingy with a lot of padding and I walk around the lobby in it when I have to do stuff inside the lamp house. Sure, people stare, but so what? I put the dentist-looking face mask on backwards too. People get a laugh out of it and it's just something they don't see everyday. Heck, people see empty 6K reels sometimes and always have to make a comment like, "They still run film on those?" Hahaha, people are so ignorant.

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Tim Reed
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 - posted 02-07-2000 08:55 AM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Aaron, you've been to hell and back! Go have another drink, you deserve it!

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Jason Burroughs
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 - posted 02-07-2000 09:42 AM      Profile for Jason Burroughs   Email Jason Burroughs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Aaron, wow!

Kinda scary, concidering how many times I've changed bulbs of all sizes from 2K up 7K without protective gear. Kinda makes you stop and think. Guess its kinda the "its never going to happen to me" thing. After seeing this though, I'll be wearing that protective gear...

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 02-07-2000 12:00 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
In addition to the information provided by the xenon lamp manufacturers (I recall that Osram had a training video), an excellent discussion of xenon lamp safety is the NASA Lewis Safety Manual, Chapter 26, High Pressure Arc Lamps (Xenon):
http://ned-lerc.lerc.nasa.gov/lsm/lsm26.htm

At Kodak, we always use a full face shield that covers the eyes and neck area, ballistic nylon/Kevlar flak jumpsuit, and heavy gloves.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Professional Motion Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com


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Andy Davis
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 - posted 02-07-2000 07:57 PM      Profile for Andy Davis   Author's Homepage   Email Andy Davis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Aaron, just one question. Was the bulb hot when you were removing it?

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Aaron Mehocic
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The bulb had been lit for 3 1/2 hours earlier that afternoon during a showing of "Hurricane". I was told at 6:30 PM that the manager wanted the bulb changed, but I procrastinated the job because he has been known to pull good bulbs and toss them just to have a little brighter light for movies he wishes to sit down and watch. I tested the brightness at about 9:30 PM and found that a change was probably needed. The bulb was lit for probably two minutes during the test. I explicitly remember thinking that a half hour cooling time would be sufficient before removal. I also left the lamphouse blowers on right up to the time I was about to open the lamphouse access panel.

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Tom Sauter
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 - posted 11-05-2001 05:56 PM      Profile for Tom Sauter   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Sauter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I almost had a 1kw xenon blow up on me this weekend while working on scaffolding. I noticed that none of the slide projectors' 5 cooling fans were running about 2 minutes after striking the lamp. The rear of the lamphouse was a few feet from my head... with me standing on the level below about 10' in the air. The only thing between me and that bulb was the reflector, a cooling fan, and my glasses.

Now that I've changed my underwear, I'm going to put airflow sensors on those *%$&ing fans!

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Will Kutler
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 - posted 11-05-2001 06:12 PM      Profile for Will Kutler   Email Will Kutler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Christie SLC Xenon Console books -- which can be found in the MANUALS section of Film-Tech gives a complete list and requirements concerning safety gear to be worn while handling xenon bulbs. OSHA and your MSDS books should also have this info.

Anyhow, I actually had a brand new Elmer Perkin xenon bulb explode on me as I was lifting it out of the box! The protective clothing as well as the heavy plastic bulb wrapper completly protected me and prevented debris from scattering around the booth! I only suffered a temporary heart rate increase !

Anyhow, how to handle your used bulbs. I always wrap the used bulb back up in the plastic cover. I then go to the garbage dumpster--and while wearing my protective clothing and using the dumpster door as an extra shield, I break the bulbs inside the metal dumpster.

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 11-06-2001 12:16 AM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you read some of the information supplied by manufacturers a number of years ago these are what was described as "non passive failure". I guess by that description a 500 pound bomb is a non passive weapon.

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Gerard S. Cohen
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 - posted 11-07-2001 07:14 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For those who wear glasses, it's always safer to have the lenses made of plastic rather than glass when working with machinery or lamps.
For face protection, I used American Optical Co. shields, the same kind used when operating a chain saw, leaf blower or grinding wheel.
They cover from hairline to mid chest
I disposed of used bulbs ineligible for warranty return by rolling
them in an entire newspaper and hitting with a hammer, saving the tungsten anodes and cathodes which make nice balance scale weights.
I suppose a ballistically inclined hobbyist might find armor-piercing use for them, but they'd be hard on the lands and grooves of barrels,
being harder than steel? I saved the SS end pices, thinking to make
a + and - candellabra, but lost them when I had the garage emptied after my wife lost two cars to thieves, followed by three break-ins by
air-bag stealers. What uses do you guys put bulb parts to? And what do you do with used trailers after their run has ended?

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Don Sneed
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 - posted 11-08-2001 04:17 AM      Profile for Don Sneed   Author's Homepage   Email Don Sneed   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was once training a new projectionist a few years ago in a manule house, just as we walked behind the #2 machine, the new operator asked me "what happens if the bulb blows up", just then the bulb did blow up, I said..."Like that...turn these switches off" !!! only happen once, if it had to blow it picked the perfect time !!

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Mathew Molloy
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 - posted 11-08-2001 04:17 PM      Profile for Mathew Molloy   Email Mathew Molloy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A friend saw a 4K explode during operation and blowing out the lens and denting out the side of the lamphouse (he was in the auditorium at the time). Of course I had to be told that story before my first 4K lamp change and every time I had to change one of those out I sweat bullets. Especially the last time when one had welded itself to the back lead.
Also heard of one exploding when a projectionist forgot to remove the plastic cover before igniting the thing, but that was contained.

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