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Topic: Speilberg does Kubrik!!!
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Scott Magie
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From: St. Albans, VT USA
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 03-18-2000 02:46 AM
I may not know anything about projection, but now we're talking my language. It's just like being back in film-school... arguing about films over Mountain Dew and a half page of scribbled notes during a "study session".Just a few morsels from my universe... - Strangelove is pure genius... but I don't think Kubrik should be canonized for his career... he should simply be listed among the top 50 or so directors of all time... which, considering how many people want to direct, is not that bad. - Spielberg would also be on that list, so let's just be glad that A.I. isn't being done by Brian DePalma! It could be worse! - My only complaint is that this project could postpone Minority Report... anxious to see what Steve does with Tom. - Back before Episode 1, there was lot's of talk about George not directing 2 & 3. One person mentioned was Joe Johnston (October Sky, The Rocketeer, Jumanji, Honey I shrunk the Kids, and currently... Jurassic Park 3, a.k.a. "Extinction" or "Embryo"). I'm obviously a fan. Anyway, since "Jar-Jar and the Cute Kid Who Got Lucky" was released, I have heard nothing of George giving up his director's chair. Maybe he's afraid that he won't find a director that'll put up with Yoda's endless on-set antics. Okay, that's my three cents. Any other Joe Johnston fans out there?
------------------ Scott A. Magie scoooot@bigsky.net "Anybody wanna peanut?"
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Chris Erwin
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From: Olive Hill,KY
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 03-18-2000 08:45 AM
>Don't get me wrong... George Lucas WAS a >great director. American Graffiti is one of >my all time favourite films.I've always heard the rumor Ron Howard directed more of that film than Lucas ever did. On "Eyes Wide Shut" I was all hyped about it until I popped it in the VCR. An hour and a half later,I turned it off and when to bed. --Chris
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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-18-2000 01:56 PM
Since I am the one who started this debate, I feel it is time to chime in with about 17 cents worth, and my reasons why kubrik was one of the greats...1. The point has been made that Kubrik is not mainstream. This is good. Have you seen the number of mainstream movies these days. THEY SUCK. Kubrik is independant, and he does make films that make him feel good. The great ones always do. Not everyone is going to get it, it is art and as far as that goes that is what art is. It is open to interpretation by each and every person, and the director makes no bones about trying to explain it for the masses of fat munching couch pototoes that slob out 9 bucks for a movie and the equivalent of a house payment for popcorn. This is what makes independant film so great is that it becomes a different film for each viewer, no common demoninator exists. The films that pander to box office grosses often are thin of plot and weak in story, and filled with no talent bums like decaprio. 2. Films should be an extention of the director, not the writer. Yes you need a great script or story line, plot, actors, but the real storytelling is by the director. A powerful director can twist and turn you in your seat, a weak director will leave you wondering if that was a finger in your hot dog. If the director just takes the project, its a job, if it is something close to thier heart, it becomes a story. Case in point: I myself am putting on the reins of directing. A film called "from the winter snow" about a man who through the course of one therapy session comes to terms with what he has always seen as failures in his life and discovers that he never recovered from a near fatal car accident just one year earlier. The basis of the story is if you wanted to die and were ready to take your own life, would you fight to save yourself if fate stepped in to do it for you? Now this movie is going to be a total loss and a disaster at the box office, because it has absolutely no pretense of mass pandering, no special effects, no pretty leading ladies. It is a story special and close to me and will be told with my heart and not with my pocketbook. I estimate fewer than 10 thousand will ever see it, but thats ok, because I make this film of my valition and not to make a buck. That is what is wrong with hollywood these days. More bang for the buck is not such a good thing. 3. My 17 cents were up i think about a dollar and 22 cents ago.. ------------------ "If it's not worth doing, I have allready been there and done it"
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-18-2000 02:47 PM
>>"John and Joe, it's indeed very good to have goals in your life, like John wants to be 'jedi' and Joe wants to be 'film-god' one of my goals is to run 70mm on a regular basis with 2 DP70/Norelco projectors on a curved screen in my own theater Did i forget to mencen that it must be in 6 track Mag sound with a CP200"<<Done it did it! ;-P Actually it was on a Flat screen but it was at the MacArthur theatre in Washington DC (my personal favorite of all time). A pair of Norelcos, Futura IIs, Dolby CP-200 and 70mm (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn) and later, the reissue of Raiders of the Lost Ark (the final film to play at the beloved MacArthur before it was cut-up <sniff>. For trivia buffs, the MacArthur was the World Premier theatre for STAR TREK:THE MOTION SICKNESS....er Picture Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-18-2000 03:01 PM
>>"There is no better director to take over a Kubrick project than Steven Speilberg. Since Kubrick's death, Speilberg has been the best director alive. Plus, he may be the biggest Kubrick fan alive too. I think the nay-sayers will eat their words when the movie is released."<<Just to show that everybody has their own opinions... I have long considered Kubrick to be one of the best directors ever and while living, the best alive. Spielberg, on the other hand, I have at best mixed feeling about and normally find his film "directions" annoying and incompetent. Spielberg makes popular films, no question and picks good topics to film about. I just don't care one nit about the look of his films nor the direction. Of the Spielberg offerings, Raiders was my favorite and in my opinion, still his best offering to date. As a Kubrick fan, Spielberg would not have been my first choice. I guess some will be pleased nobody consults me on such things as Spielberg is a popular director. I do wonder as film students study directorial techniques in the future how Spielberg will measure up with the likes of Kubrick, Wells, D'Mille, and Lean, to name a few. ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 03-18-2000 08:59 PM
Speilberg aside, who are the best directors and what project do you attest to that?Jean Caro: City of lost children Alex Proyas: Dark City either of those would be the choice to direct AI, not speilberg. These two have styles all thier own, inventing movie making as they go along... thats what its all about... So what about the rest of you? who are the greats? ------------------ "If it's not worth doing, I have allready been there and done it"
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