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Mathew Molloy
Master Film Handler

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From: The Santa Cruz Mountains
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 10-09-2001 01:30 AM      Profile for Mathew Molloy   Email Mathew Molloy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Will, you mentioned that unlike IATSE projectionists, you were not paid to run pre-screenings. Just wanted to say that where I was union we were neither required nor paid to run them either. (Except in very rare cases like during a world premiere at a film festival.) If we did run them it was on our own time. Where I'm working now (non-union) we are paid to pre-screen the films. So I guess it just depends on the theatre and the (union) contract.

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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
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 - posted 10-09-2001 09:14 AM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
But why half a reel in each can? The trailers only come in one can. And I have never seen that before.

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Neil Hunter
Film Handler

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From: Salisbury, NC, USA
Registered: Oct 2001


 - posted 10-09-2001 09:50 AM      Profile for Neil Hunter   Email Neil Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I got a print of Irn Monkey last week for press screening, and when I opened the cans only two out of the five reels were there, the other three were just film on cores. To top that off, the two reels that were there were completely broken, there were pieces of them in the bottom of the cans. So when I broke it down, I wound the film onto the cores, and sent it out like that, along with a note in each can saying something to the effect of Technicolor reels suck.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 12:35 AM      Profile for Jeffry L. Johnson   Author's Homepage   Email Jeffry L. Johnson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tonight I had the pleasure of discarding 19 of those lovely reel halves with no keyway. These were from three screening prints that I either shipped out or inspected, LANTANA, GOSFORD PARK, and NO MAN'S LAND.

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Paul G. Thompson
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 01:20 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Those were the ones I burned a keyway in with a solder pencil as I have described in a different tread.

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Bob Healey
Film Handler

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From: Milford, CT
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 12-07-2001 01:39 AM      Profile for Bob Healey   Email Bob Healey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Don't know how this one happened, but last sat, we had a technicolor film that out of the six reels, two were unbent metal reels, and the other 4 were unbroken one piece solid plastic reels with metal keyways (not the snap together black ones) of course the cans had their fair share of dents. For a print as old as good morning vietnam, i was surprised at the quality of the reels/film

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 02:12 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thats because it was on solid reels prior to TES taking over distribution of that title, rather than the practice of slapping reel halves onto fresh-off-the-lab cores.

-Aaron

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Paul Harnden
Expert Film Handler

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From: Chandler, AZ, USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 09:15 AM      Profile for Paul Harnden   Email Paul Harnden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just to add a technicolor gem:

One night I was assigned to build two prints of the "Animal" for the next day's release. When first inspecting the reels of all the films before buildup I noticed one can, even when closed, let off a particular nasty smell. Opening it up revealed a tremendous amount of mold covering the entire inside of the can. I took the reels themselves out and noticed the film had been severly water-damaged. The mold smell itself proved so bad that for the time being we had to store the can in a faraway closet so no one would get sick. We called technicolor up and they apologized, blah blah blah, leaving us with half a print built and the morning projectionist having to come in early and finish up. Then the next day I came in to find out that the replacement reels were delivered to the Loews Cineplex down the street, so when we finally got it, we had to put it together in the last minute, now come on! Also to add the bad can stayed with us for about a week stinking up our closet before anyone decided to pick it up. Needless to say Technicolor wasn't on my good list from then on.


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Tom Sauter
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From: Buffalo, NY, USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 04:50 PM      Profile for Tom Sauter   Author's Homepage   Email Tom Sauter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes, we all love how accurate Technicolor's shipping procedures are. For some reason technicolor loves to bill us for prints that weren't shown at our theatre. Numerous times we have received bills where they have superimposed our shipping address with our clients' billing address --- and our clients never even screened that print here.

Last year about this time we got socked with a major blizzard and every area theatre closed. UPS and airborne had loads of prints that couldn't be delivered so yup, you guessed it, they were told to ship them all to me... since our office staff had been stranded and we were "open".

The only thing I will say in Technicolor's defense is that their use of airborne's ez-return label system saves me about 14 seconds a week.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 12-07-2001 05:24 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I did a screening a couple of days ago and TES delivered the print the day before like normal. Only problem is that they then wanted that print back! They said "we'll send you another one tomorrow afternoon for your screening". Oh yeah, that's just great guys!

I called in and inquired as to the reasoning why they needed to send us another print when we already had one sitting right here (in good condition too). The operator found out that the print that was shipped (and addressed) to us needed to play at another theater. So why can't they just ship the other print to this other theater to save on everyone's hassles? Our screening dates were exactly the same. Funny enough, even the TES operator thought it was senseless and we were told to hold the existing print. Shortly thereafter we were called back and told to release the print, and then that we could keep it again. Then another call came in from TES furious that we "refused to release the print". (The rep was very rude from what I understand.) Bullshit! We never said we would not release the print, we only asked if we could just keep this one. This crap went on for a couple of hours with them not being able to make up their mind. Finally we just gave it to the Airborne guy who showed up for the initial pickup just to get it the hell out of the theater so we wouldn't have to listen to the bs anymore.

Turns out the print we got right before the screening came from some theater in Virginia. It was broken down with masking tape, leaders thrown on reels every which way, stretched sprockets in sections of the film and scratched! Thanks again Technicolor. You're AWESOME!

While I'm thinking about it, I heard that Universal is going to pull out of TES and go over to the infinitely superior ETS depots. Anyone know more specifics?


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Ken Lackner
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What is ETS? The only two depots I have heard of are Technicolor (TES), and Benton.

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Daniel Boisson
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From: Buffalo, NY, USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 07:28 PM      Profile for Daniel Boisson   Email Daniel Boisson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
i love the canisters that require a hammer and a little tapping to get open. its very suspenceful, you never know what will be inside.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 12-07-2001 07:57 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Benton is just your delivery guys. ETS is the depot you are getting films like Warner, Fox, Paramount, New Line and so forth from.

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Paul Harnden
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From: Chandler, AZ, USA
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 - posted 12-07-2001 08:02 PM      Profile for Paul Harnden   Email Paul Harnden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Unfortunately to say Daniel is that I bet all of us has had to deal with those types of cans.


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Bob Healey
Film Handler

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Never had one I needed tools to open yet, however, I have met a few requiring special equipment to get closed again.

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