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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 05-17-2000 10:35 PM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Josh:

I work at the 12 plex in town, at the Oakwood Mall. I'm always there Friday afternnons, Saturday nights, Tuesday afternnons, and Wednesday afternoon. I also have a fifth shift either on Sunday's or Thursday afternoons. It will probably be Thursday this summer. Drop by anytime, I'll be happy to give you the grand tour of our cluttered and messy booth.

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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If people use certain words, you can tell they are WANKERS! ("Camera", "Tape", etc.)

Around here it's "Thread" (Western Pennsylvania)

But then again, in Western PA, people say "Root" when they mean "Route" and "Soda" is called "Pop".

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Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

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From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 05-17-2000 10:53 PM      Profile for Ethan Harper   Email Ethan Harper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Soda called Pop.

no its called coke. sprite or Dr. pepper

Im sorry i even use to live up north and still find it strange?

oh wait im sorry if you are up north that means most likely you drink pepsi instead.

wzup with dat yo?

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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
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No, I drink Coca-Cola. I only drink Pepsi as a last resort!

Pepsi is communist. They make their cans red, white and blue to try to prove they're not!

You REALLY wanna' hear some messed-up lingo? Go to New England! I lived in Boston for over 5 years and was only STARTING to get the hang of it. Pittsburgh would be my second choice for "regional idioms". ("Poke" -- "Gumband" -- "Gynt-Iggle")

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Scott Magie
Film Handler

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From: St. Albans, VT USA
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Build up. Break down.
Thread up. Or String up.

What's really bad is when people call the brain the "governor" or "film governor"! Way too many syllables for this cat!

I had a customer tell me that the tracking was off once. Another misframe produced someone who said that the focus was off. Someone else once told me that 5 minutes of the film just melted!

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"Anybody wanna peanut?"

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 05-18-2000 12:22 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was working with a tech once during a typical UA theatre install. UA always outsources who does the booth install for them. Anyway, this guy was very adament that I do not refer to the Christie brain as a "brain". He wanted me to call it a feedplate or something like that, but I didn't listen. He had some weird Hungarian accent or something (Ian will know who I am talking about). He wanted me to call the cards behind the hinged door on the platter the "brain."


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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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 - posted 05-18-2000 12:45 AM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm in Montana, and I "thread" the "machine." The only time I ever say projector is if I'm talking to a civilian.

I "make up" film (I use a light foundation followed by a... no, I won't go there) and "take it down" when finished.

When I first learned, back when this was a changeover booth, the act of transfering the film from the shipping reels to the house reels was called "making up," at least by the guy who trained me and he'd been here 25 years.

Also I drink Pepsi. If their red, white and blue cans make them communist, then what do Coke's red cans make them....Native American??


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Bill Purdy
Expert Film Handler

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From: Seattle, WA
Registered: Oct 1999


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I am a bit surprised that we haven't had any input from our British associates. Most of the references I have heard to "lacing" a projector were in British publications. I have also seen what we call a lateral guide roller referred to as a "lay-on" roller. Just regional differences.

It has also been interesting to me to see those same regional differences show up in other practices. As a lad discovering those strange dark rooms way up there behind the balcony, ususally populated by a semi-antisocial character working in a haze of grey smoke, change-overs were activated by a foot pedal for the douser. You stood beside your incoming machine to make your changeover. Most of the pedals were switches controlling "Zipper" dousers, but I have seen systems wherein the pedal was mechanically connected by bicycle chain to cast iron flags on the front wall. In other parts of the country everything is (was) wired to a central console between the machines where it was all done with pushbuttons. On arc lamps that did not have hand douser handles on both sides, you had to reach around the right machine to open them.

Speaking of differences, for those of us who have been in lots of single changeover houses, there are the fascinating little devices those projectionists used to concoct to make their lives easier. All the gadgets to hold the doors open (illegally) alone could make up a long thread here----perhaps another day.

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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Maybe we should start a thread on "old-timer" stories:

Showing films using 1000-foot reels.
"Carbon Savers".
Silver "jaws".
Collecting copper drippings for Will Rogers.
Projectors with doors and film magazines.
Fire shutters.
Nitrate film. (Acetate film).
Cement splices.
Phototubes instead of solar cells or CCDs.
Vacuum tubes instead of solid state.
Motor-Generators, ballasts, and mercury vapor rectifiers.
Rigorous training and certification of projectionists to develop technical skills.
Projection as a skilled CAREER.
Two operators per screen for 70mm.
Five operators per screen for Cinerama.
Film exchanges run by each distributor that actually inspected prints for damage.
"Academy" format
Curtains (and not just one set).
Showmanship.
etc.

Lots has changed, much for the better, some for the worse. We can't go back, and wouldn't want to. But we can learn and apply those things that provided the professional presentation and "showmanship" that is so often missing today.

BTW, I'm really not THAT old, but I did use carbon savers, silver "jaws" and saved copper drippings for good ol' Will.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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I have been there and done that for almost all of those except we used to sell the copper drippings for beer money and also we sold the carbon butts to a printshop who used them for plate burning
At two theatres we had MG sets one was in the booth the other beside it
Ran the Ballantyne and AMpex tube systems
still have magazine covers and doors installed
Used Carbon savers (used to make them)
And when my paycheck bounced the silver jaws re-enbursed me
I am feeling old


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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John,
In the old days you left out working for the mob..........

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Russ Kress
Expert Film Handler

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From: Charleston, WV, USA
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 - posted 05-18-2000 10:43 PM      Profile for Russ Kress   Author's Homepage   Email Russ Kress   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here's the official West Virginia dialect:

*clears throat*

When a film arrives, we "make it up" (make-up) on to the platter.

We then proceed to "thread" it into the projector day in and day out. The first item we thread it through has two common names, depending on the age of the speaker. The young folks (snooty college types) call it the brain and the old geezers call it the "pay-out".

When were finished, we "break it down" (break-down) on to the reels.

BTW, Possum fat makes better popcorn than ANY other oil on the market! As an added bonus, the hide makes an excellent film cleaner media.


*Well, now that I've cleared that up...*

Russ


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John Wilson
Film God

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From: Sydney, Australia.
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West Virginia must be near here somewhere 'cos that's what we say to a tee.

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Ky Boyd
Hey I'm #23

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From: Santa Rosa, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 05-20-2000 07:21 PM      Profile for Ky Boyd   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The only projector I've ever heard load be the correct term for was a Kodak Super 8mm machine that used either 50 ft reels or 400 ft reels in cartridges. You snapped in the cartridge and hit the load button.

I do, however, load a camera with film.


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Carl King
Expert Film Handler

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From: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
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Ever since I started projecting it has been "thread up". The only time I've heard anyone use "lace" was during the early 1980's when I was training a woman from the Mass area. She used the term lace up. Now with platters the terms used here are "make up a print" "tear down a print".

There will be standard terminology when there is standard training.



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