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David Koegel
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From: Alexandria, VA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 06-15-2000 11:32 AM      Profile for David Koegel   Email David Koegel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You know, Oscar, when I first hear that theory that you quote, I immediately discounted it. But the more and more I thought about it, the more I believed it's true. I think you can see that in a lot of industries, from medicines to pesticides to even Scotch Guard products. Once patent protection is lifted and generic products start competing with the name products, the profit margins drop to just about zero. What to do? Invent a newer, "safer" albeit more expensive alternative while eliminating the competition.

Even if this weren't true, just look at the freon-12 and -22 issue. Most of it is still being used in closed systems. However, in the past, it was used as a propellent in just about every spray can and was even used in a jig that chilled your cocktail glasses before you poured yourself a drink. With gross tonnages literally being blown into the atmosphere, of COURSE it would start to accumulate and perhaps interact with atmospheric chemical reactions. So why didn't they just eliminate SOME of the uses of these products instead of a wholesale ban? Billions have been spent to replace a nontoxic and cheap product that worked just fine for air conditioning and cooling.

Of course this plan was probably hatched on a grassy knoll in Dallas a few years back....

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 06-15-2000 11:52 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
All you ever (never) wanted to know about the ozone layer and reasons behind the "Montreal Protocol" solvent restrictions are on the site:
http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/ozone-depletion/intro.html

The Greenpeace site gives their viewpoint:
http://www.greenpeace.org/~ozone/

The HVAC Industry viewpoint is at:
http://www.hvacmall.com/news/news_government.htm

The Surface Cleaning Laboratory has information at:
http://www.cleaning.org/HTMLSrc/FactSheet2.html

The US Environmental Protection Agency site has information (search "Montreal Protocol" and "methyl chloroform"):
http://www.epa.gov

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Eastman Kodak Company
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Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 06-15-2000 09:31 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My god Oscar, you are human! We actually agree on something! ;-)

I too believe the R-12 scare was DuPont's way of keeping the profits up. And even if you believe the R-12 thing was bad what about R-22. Sure you can point to car A/C systems losing their charge but R-22 was used in Refrigerators and such...how many of those leaked out?

In any event, it was handled very piss-poorly. If the EPA thinks (not something I would accuse them of) that a substance may cause environmental harm, Like R-12 R-22 then simply stop the manufactur and import of the things that use it. Through attrition, the demand will drop. It would have been much smoother but DuPont wouldn't have been able to cash in on R134a like it did and does.

The EPA is one of those good ideas run amuck. I think the environment needs to be protected from industry but there doesn't seem to be any check on the EPA from going haywire.

Steve

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