Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Green Bands on Trailers

my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home

»	Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE » Operations » Film Handlers' Forum » Green Bands on Trailers (Page 3)

This topic comprises 6 pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6

Author

Topic: Green Bands on Trailers

Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1865
From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 07-09-2000 11:43 PM

Honest question here, why does everyone prefer heads out?

| IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 07-10-2000 12:15 AM

Many trailer changes are done right on the platter, making heads out FAR more convenient. Also, it only takes a minute to rewind an entire reel of trailers if they all started heads out. Big deal. If an operator can't spare a minute to do that, he needs more help.

| IP: Logged

Tom Kroening
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 214
From: Janesville, WI USA
Registered: Oct 1999

posted 07-10-2000 12:34 AM

I think the green bands should definately be left on.

a) I didn't put the green bands on there. My theatre company didn't put them on there... what gives us the right to take them off?

b) They offer great focus guides (and framing guides if for some odd reason you didn't check your framing while threading).

c) They seperate the trailors... not all people like their peas and potatoes mixed.

d) Some audio does start on the green band... also it gives you a silence period to further more reasure you this is a differennt trailor.

e) Easier to break down trailors.

f) it seems to look more professional. Without them its kinda like running a movie without credits.

g) you can tell how clean your film is and how bright teh bulb is.

i could go on but im sure all of you know this already. Unfortunatly i have to cut them off now : ( But its not the end of the world. I have plenty of other things to bitch about. : /

| IP: Logged

Tom Ferreira
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 203
From: Conway, NH, USA
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-10-2000 08:34 AM

The previous 'manager' at the theatre I currently operate loved to cut off the green bands. I believe it looked unprofessional and tacky. The only situation where it could possibly be justified would be an art house where most trailers probably aren't submitted to the MPAA anyway. It even annoys me that my lobby tape has no green MPAA approved to divide them. Most commercial tapes have the green on their trailers.
I should specify earlier remarks in this thread; what I would like is well defined frame markings at the heads and tails of all trailers. The four circles works for this purpose, but there are still some studios(I'm thinking of Sony, I believe), that have no markings at all. Still, this situation is improving. What really annoys me is Screenvision ads-why can't they take the extra time to put frame lines on these, especially with the quick turnover on some of them? Of course, the total elimination of them altogether would be OK, too.

| IP: Logged

Gordon McLeod
Film God

Posts: 9532
From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 07-10-2000 09:39 AM

Well I wish they would get rid of the green bands all togather.
Outside of the US the MPPA has no standing and in most other country's there are film review or censor boards that have there own rating system.
As such in example Ontario it is an offense under the theatres act to show other rateings since Ontario has its own different rateing as do other provinces or countries.
The removal of the green bands does cause a very unprofessional drop in sound.
I really do feel that since non US film grosses are usually higher than the domestic grosses they should print trailors with that inmind. ie since they make more money overseas then at least print the things so they are profesional there as well
Just my 2 cents worth (that equals 1.2cents US)

| IP: Logged

Jesse Skeen
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1517
From: Sacramento, CA
Registered: Aug 2000

posted 09-13-2000 10:43 PM

So has anyone ever gotten in trouble for leaving the green bands ON when someone asks that they be cut off? I haven't seen anyone get in trouble for running outdated trailers (like the "Bedazzled" trailer that says "August" on it) or leaving too much black at the end til you see and hear stuff that's not supposed to be onscreen!

| IP: Logged

Zach McQuaid
Film Handler

Posts: 37
From: Erie, Pennsylvania, USA
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 09-14-2000 12:09 AM

Green Bands look bad. They sucked when they were required. If you KNOW what your doing and have ever actually used the cob-web covered frame counter in YOUR booth then you'd not have a problem finding where the frame(s) starts. I would suggest not splicing into the trailEr where you see the soundtrack for starters. As far as monitoring your cleanliness of film...w-w-w-w-what? You running that print across the floor or what? How dirty is your booth, that that is a problem? I don't like green trailErs anyhow.

| IP: Logged

System Notices
Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi

Posts: 215

Registered: Apr 2004

posted 04-14-2008 09:49 PM

It has been 2769 days since the last post.

| IP: Logged

Chad M Calpito
Master Film Handler

Posts: 435
From: San Diego, CA
Registered: Apr 2006

posted 04-14-2008 09:49 PM

Since the take over from Pacific Theatres to Reading Cinemas, I figured I would do a search with regards to Green Bands on Trailers (whether to leave them on or not, etc.) Well, it's been a interesting read with various opinions. Reading Cinemas doesn't have any policy with regards to Green Bands, at least that is what I am told.

So, in my booth, I've made it policy to leave all Green Bands on during movie builds and trailer swaps. To me, it makes sense since, during my movie builds while employed with Pacific Theatres, I would notice a lot of trailers would have the soundtrack beginning in the Green Band section, but, had to cut that part off due to their policy.

Now, since Reading Cinemas is now in town, I instituted the new policy at the Gaslamp Stadium 15. [Big Grin]

| IP: Logged

Dave Cutler
Master Film Handler

Posts: 277
From: Centennial, CO
Registered: Jun 2000

posted 04-14-2008 10:42 PM

So, I haven't posted in a really, really long time. I don't even lurk that often anymore, but I find it hilarious that on a day I log in to look up something I find that a thread I started nearly 8 years ago was resurrected by the Soup Nazi on the same day. [Big Grin]

Reading my posts from 2000 I am amazed at how angry I was back then. These days I could really care less if a trailer is head or tail out, it'll be correct by the time I get it on the platter. The things I worried about when I was 22......... crazy.

I would still like a nice pretty bow however. HA!

| IP: Logged

Thomas Pitt
Master Film Handler

Posts: 266
From: Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK
Registered: May 2007

posted 04-15-2008 06:16 PM

As the first UK person to post in this thread, I'll say what we have in the way of trailers. We don't have MPAA green 'bands' (I just can't bring myself to call them bands, they're green screens of information). Instead, we have a screen showing the BBFC certificate for the trailer coming up, and the word TRAILER below it.

These are usually shown on a black background, so framing errors aren't apparent until the actual trailer starts. But like the MPAA green bands, sound is sometimes recorded on the film while the screen is still showing the certificate - since the sound is read further along the film.

Many cinemas in the UK cut these BBFC certificate cards out and just have the trailers running back to back. I remember one for Surf's Up where a small amount of dialogue was muted at the beginning because the certificate was cut out.

Also, in all my years of going to cinemas, I have never once seen a scope trailer - they're always flat. The only scope advert I've ever seen was the Orange Gold Spot, which is used at certain cinemas.

| IP: Logged

Chris Slycord
Film God

Posts: 2986
From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007

posted 04-15-2008 08:23 PM

quote: Thomas Pitt
Also, in all my years of going to cinemas, I have never once seen a scope trailer - they're always flat. The only scope advert I've ever seen was the Orange Gold Spot, which is used at certain cinemas.

That's bizarre to me. Every scope movie we have that's supposed to have trailers has scope ones. In fact, I've had pretty decent success with getting the trailers we were expected/required to play coming with the movie itself (and rarely getting a trailer in the wrong format but it happens).

| IP: Logged

John Hawkinson
Film God

Posts: 2273
From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 04-16-2008 12:22 AM

Different countries are different. And of course, because of ratings, there is very little movement of trailers between national markets.

--jhawk

| IP: Logged

Chris Slycord
Film God

Posts: 2986
From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007

posted 04-16-2008 12:37 AM

I'm well aware that "different countries are different." I thought it was clear that I was simply saying what I've experienced here as a comparison to what he's experienced.

| IP: Logged

James Westbrook
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1133
From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa
Registered: Mar 2006

posted 04-16-2008 01:26 AM

When I first started working in The Movies, there were very few scope trailers. Most trailers were flat, and required a lens change for the scope feature. I find it interesting it's still this way in the UK.

| IP: Logged

All times are Central (GMT -6:00)

This topic comprises 6 pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6

Printer-friendly view of this topic

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.