Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Film Handlers' Forum   » Isco Vs. Schneider ... what's your vote? (Page 3)

 
This topic comprises 3 pages: 1  2  3 
 
Author Topic: Isco Vs. Schneider ... what's your vote?
Frank Prete
Film Handler

Posts: 55
From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 10-01-2000 12:24 AM      Profile for Frank Prete   Email Frank Prete   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also looks like you may end up with what is cheaper at the time...

 |  IP: Logged

Stefan Scholz
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 223
From: Schoenberg, Germany
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 10-01-2000 02:41 PM      Profile for Stefan Scholz   Author's Homepage   Email Stefan Scholz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, the red barrel Isco lens did not deliver more light and uniformity than the recent Schneider, according to my friend. At least with the test setup (Kinotone as described before.) I am going to see the lens designer at Isco, and we will discuss the optical design. Maybe, with another mirror / projector combination, they might have advantages. The PSA 200 really proved to be very helpful in doing theese tests. We will undergo more investigations soon.
The best combination I have personally used was Blue Star anamorphic with 70 mm 8 perf base lenses from Isco.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 10-01-2000 07:26 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Stefan:

Thanks for the reply. I was most curious since you mentioned you use Kinoton. The way I understand the HD PLUS lens is that it achieves the improved light by having the acceptance angle conform to light coming out of the lamphouse so the lamphouse reflector is a major element in the whole process.

I have received a report of someone using the Strong Super Lume-X lamphouse and the light improvement was substantial, particularly in the corners...the natural hotspotting was substantially diminshed.

I have used UltraStar primes with the BlueStar as well as the Schneider Super Cinelux line of lenses with the Blue Star and in all occurances it was a great success. Unlike other anamorphics, the Blue Star doesn't seem to cost you any resolution. It is simply great.

I will agree that the Schneider Integrated anamorphics are also quite good...I wish ISCO would also make their integrated anamorphics as attachments rather than "integrated"...then make a Blue Star with it.

Steve

------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"

 |  IP: Logged

Pat Moore
Master Film Handler

Posts: 363

Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 10-02-2000 10:54 AM      Profile for Pat Moore   Email Pat Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hmm... Once again I'll step in lightly here, and you guys all know where I am and who I work for, okay?

The match of lenses and reflectors does make a significant difference in SYSTEM performance. Not just alignment, although that can make a huge difference, but in the components and how they match up as well. I have not had the opportunity to "play" too much with the Kinotone stuff, so I am not familiar with its optical characteristics. Guess I better find one somewhere near me and explore a bit. Any volunteers?

My results with the PLUS lenses have been very positive, overall. I can only speak for what I've seen and worked with, of course, and that goes for my equipment and a little of the competition that's out there.

I have yet to install a PLUS in place of a standard Ultra-Star * HD and not see an improvement in performance, both in overall light throughput and especially in distribution. By fine-tuning the system's primarily alignment, whatever gain I get from just replacing the lens can be further improved, sometimes by a LOT. Some of the numbers in some places have been really exceptional.

What I notice with the PLUS is a significant improvement in the center, and a BIG increase in distribution, both on the sides and in the corners of the picture.

Now, that's mostly using US-designed optical systems and, again, I've not had the opportunity to test in a Kinotone-equipped house.

Any other disclaimers I should throw out there?

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
This topic comprises 3 pages: 1  2  3 
 
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.