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Topic: Brekert owners in trouble
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-31-2001 02:27 AM
Plastic 26241? Hmmmm. I wonder how it will hold up under a big heavy Brenkert. You know, seems to me that if would hold up in a 1040 without a flywheel on the motor, it might just make the grade. The bronze gears get hammered to a pulp in those 1040's, especially when the projectionist bumps his machine forward with the motor switch. As a passing thought, bumping the projector forward with the motor should never be done on ANY projector! A Piggly Wiggly No-No! Newbies, please heed. 
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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1068
From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-31-2001 09:25 PM
"Projectors should be inched over by hand to check threading not motor bumped"And you "should" brush and floss after every meal.  As long as the motor gets up to speed and runs for a couple of seconds, I'll put the strain on the motor. Refrigeration motors cycle thousands of times, pump motors for wells cycle on and off regularly, even the fans in automobiles are now motors that cycle on and off. Projectors now start once per show, rather than three or four times, like they used to have to on C.O. systems. A single up-to-speed bump is within spec. and will help a newbie detect problems that otherwise might not be seen (or heard) at the low speed of a manual crank over. I don't hear Scott and others suggesting making up a print to avoid having to start the motor more than once per show. <evil grin> Your turn.
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John Walsh
Film God

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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 03-31-2001 11:33 PM
The reason to not "bump" the motor is not the motor itself, but the projector gearing.Refrigeration motors, pump motors for wells, fans in automobiles etc., are directly conneted to the whatever is being driven. Not so in projectors, with several gears (each with some amount of backlash) between the motor and the top sprocket. Personally, I feel a newbie should be taught to thread correctly _without_ even turning the motor at all. THEN, he/she can turn the motor over by hand to double-verify. It should only take a few frames of spinning. IMHO.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 04-01-2001 02:04 PM
I prefer to call it "Motoring off excessive leader." There is nothing wrong with that. If bumping the motor is to verify threading, That's a different story. I call it "Hammering" the projector forward. That is something that simply should not be done, and that procedure is simply unacceptable.. Again, as I have stated previously, if the motor has to be started, make sure it comes up to full speed before it is shut down.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 04-01-2001 04:42 PM
First off...as my name at the left shows...I'm Steve, not Scott...never have been a Scott and don't plan on changing my name to Scott!I am a strong advocate of running down the thread up section of the film rather than threading on the countdown. Basically, keep yer hands off of irreplacable stuff. Once one gets to the ID section of the leader prior to countdown, one shouldn't touch...if this policy is followed, the leader and the print itself doesn't get dirty and oily. This is true for either platter or changeover. I do not advocate "bumping" the projector since as others have pointed out, it is not good for the motor nor the gear train. On an older Century JJ with heavy steel shutters, starting and stopping puts a bunch of strain on the GR-207 gears. For those changeover theatres that have Dolby digital or SDDS, I suggest installing a run down button that won't trigger the digital processor to make a sound changeover. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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