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Josh Jones
Redhat

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From: Plano, TX
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 - posted 04-02-2001 10:57 AM      Profile for Josh Jones   Author's Homepage   Email Josh Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you gave the machine a rolling start, in other words spin the motor over and then turn on the motor, you can still bump it right? It takes out the backlash so the motor doesn't slam the gears. It doesn't deal with the start switch wear though. I have yet to see someone spin a motor that fast by hand.

Josh

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I have literally put a rope around the inching knob to hand start a motor that has a bad start switch. This will work in a pinch to keep the show on the screen. Kinda like starting a really large 2 cycle chain saw!
Mark @ GTS

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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 04-02-2001 03:46 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark - Been there, Done that...

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Paul G. Thompson
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One thing I have found through the years to prevent hammering on motor start-up is to inch the projector forward, so the gears are fully meshed when the motor is actually started. It helps. Most of the time it eliminates the "clunk" heard on motor start-up.

I have seen shutter gears stripped in Brenkerts, Ballentyne Pro-35's, and Simplex E-7's when the projectionist re-started the projector motor before the machine came to a full stop.

When the motor is running down, inertia is pushing things along. If the motor is restarted before it comes to a complete stop, the backlash is at its maximum. Some real damage could occur, and will eventually toast a gear or two.


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Paul Cunningham
Expert Film Handler

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From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: Jun 2000


 - posted 04-02-2001 09:09 PM      Profile for Paul Cunningham   Email Paul Cunningham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have just picked up on this thread and it seems a pity that so much stuff has been junked. Sure I agree that if it was not high turnover stock the cost of storing it could be excessive. But I think that anyone who junks out of date/hard to get/one of a kind equipment without first asking people who may have an interest in it whether they would like it should be shot. By people with an interest I mean, technicians, suppliers, hobbyists, collectors and the like. This could easily be done via film-tech, 35mm forum or any of the large suppliers. I see John Eickhof managed to get some stuff but I am sure much more would have been rescued if this had have been known about before the fact. Personally I would have loved to go wading through a dumpster full of projector and lamphouse parts, not that I could have because I'm in Australia.

Just my two bobs worth.

Paul

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John Eickhof
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 - posted 04-03-2001 01:15 AM      Profile for John Eickhof   Author's Homepage   Email John Eickhof   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree Paul! I sure wish I new about it earlier! I would have rented a BIG truck!

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John Schulien
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I also wish I had heard earlier. I live less then a mile away! I drove over, but there was nothing but an empty dumpster. :-(

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John Walsh
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 - posted 04-03-2001 02:25 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There are several other issues going on when a company decides to dump old stock. Can the company afford to advertise they are going to dump stock? Do they have the time to wait for responses, and wait for people to come and get the stuff? If you want to get rid of something (even if you are giving it away) it's pretty annoying to have to wait while someone picks over it for hours. Then, they just take the things they want- leaving you with the junk you really wanted to get rid of. Suppose they have to get out of the building... and after letting everyone take what they want, no one wants those five monster Brenkert pedestals. Now they have to hurry up and dumpster them.

Being a pack-rat myself, I can understand the feeling. But I was on the other side too, and sometimes you just don't have time to do things gracefully.

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