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Michael Gonzalez
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From: Grand Island , NE USA
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 01-28-2002 09:29 PM      Profile for Michael Gonzalez   Email Michael Gonzalez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I got to keep the money. However you have to wait as long as it takes for a manufactures rebate to come back. Anyway, if I work for an independant second run theater and I see all these post about chain theaters throwing away old trailers, I would start thinking about making some new friends.


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Jerry Chase
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From: Margate, FL, USA
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 - posted 01-28-2002 10:16 PM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I used to get used trailers all the time from Velde. Anyone else remember them?

I'm aware of second run theatres that recycle not only trailers, but posters and mylars from friendly first run theatres. Makes sense to me.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 01-28-2002 10:47 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We used to get used trailers from NSS, but probably not for at least 5 years or more. I have never gotten a used trailer from anyone except the old NSS.

The whole trailer distribution system is a mess. I have to order the trailers I need, and about half the time can't get them. At the same time, some of you guys get more trailers than you can use.

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 01-28-2002 11:32 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John H., Heed the posts here -- no studio distributor has EVER made any trailers avaolable for second run or art house exhibitors. NEVER. Your best bet for getting trailers is to find those theatres with the basements full of old trailers, befriend the GM or projectionist and see if they will let you sift through their stuff -- you will have a better chance of finding titles that way than thinking the distribs will have trailers for the very films they are booking to you. Same goes with paper.

In the days of NSS, they kept trailers for decades and you could get stuff for most of the classics and older titles. Now that films have become the fast-food of the entertainment industry with re-releases being non-existant with the life of even the hottest titles no more than a few months, trailers are not kept. I have no idea what Paramount and Fox do with the trailers that are actually returned, but you can be sure it isn't storing them for guys like you and me running art houses and museum cinematheques.

The thing to do now is watch what's out there and order trailers and one-sheets from NSS for the films you know you will eventually want to run....and keep them.

Frank

PS -- anyone know if Donald Velde Inc, and Consolidated Poster are anywhere to be found? They used to deal with most of the independent titles. I always sent those trailers back because they did make them available over and over any time you wanted to book them. I lost track of them and their old phone numbers no longer work.


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Brad Haven
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From: fremantle, West Australia
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 - posted 01-29-2002 05:22 AM      Profile for Brad Haven   Email Brad Haven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We alway's have to return our trailer's, if we dont, we get a call from head office asking us where they are.
We actually do get the occasional second run trailer's, we recieved some used "AMELIE" trailer's from britain, which even had a date of release printed on it which was august(?), the local distributer had to print up a new ending stating the australian date of release, and just recently we recieved some used mulholland drive trailer's, possibly from the states.
slightly off topic , we actually get more second hand print's(feature)than we do new print's, mostly to do with being an arthouse film and not having the budget for a mass striking of print's .most of these print's are run through that stinky film cleaning bath.
So please look after those arthouse print's as they might come down under to my cinema.

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Tim Turner
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From: Chula Vista, CA, USA
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 - posted 01-29-2002 09:40 AM      Profile for Tim Turner   Email Tim Turner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I never return trailers. And who gets the $50 for the random drawing? I'm sure the projectionist would never see it at my theatre, the managers would pocket it before we even knew it was there.

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Steve Anderson
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From: Nashville, TN
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 - posted 01-29-2002 11:20 AM      Profile for Steve Anderson   Author's Homepage   Email Steve Anderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
At the Regal I worked at they would never retun trailers and we would toss outdated trailers into a huge box and then dump them when it got full. The box would hold around 75-85 trailers.

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Tim Turner
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 - posted 01-29-2002 11:34 AM      Profile for Tim Turner   Email Tim Turner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Its the same deal here at Ultrastar.

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Steven Privett
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 - posted 01-31-2002 03:10 PM      Profile for Steven Privett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've won Paramount's prize twice. I did all the trailer returns and on Paramounts, I put my home address. That's where the prize money came.
Then I met people that had second-run theatres and they picked them up from me every couple of weeks. I still don't see where it would hurt to ship them back if only to get them out of your booth, and city dump.

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Tim Turner
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 - posted 01-31-2002 08:52 PM      Profile for Tim Turner   Email Tim Turner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
When you return the trailers do you just put them in the can when you return a print?

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 01-31-2002 09:11 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So what happens if you send a box of Fox trailers to Paramount? Are you still eligible for the prize?

(I'm willing to bet large sums of money that they wouldn't even notice.)

And what are these "prepaid shipping labels"? I've never seen them, save for a couple of special 20th Century Fox titles (Ep. 1, etc.)

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Donna Sylvester
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From: Burney, CA, USA
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 - posted 01-31-2002 11:13 PM      Profile for Donna Sylvester   Author's Homepage   Email Donna Sylvester   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
All you guys that run first run all the time have no idea how difficult it is to get trailers. I show first run once in awhile and I see how many trailers you get in those cans. Maybe twice a year I will even get a movie with the "attached trailer" still attached. The little guys have to order every trailer they want to show be it from Technicolor or whoever. I made a call the other day and they had about six out of twenty or so trailers I wanted, in stock. They send the trailers and it cost me $35! (Technicolor can only send mail priority. They don't care--they don't have to pay the postage. Now I say ground, UPS, and get them two weeks later.) Technicolor asks do you want to back order the rest? Hell, no. If I do that they send one every few days or so at about $12 a pop and soon I can't buy that new speaker or whatever it is I need because I've exhausted my savings on trailers. I used to beg the local Cinemark for their extras and they would share; but they don't anymore. I think they think I am some kind of competitive threat now. YES--I like that! The jest of this rant is please return the trailers so us little guys can show them, too. And yes, I have received recycled trailers and yes, I did win Paramount's $50 once.

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 02-01-2002 12:12 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If I had any reason to believe that the trailers returned to distributors would find their way into the hands of smaller theaters, I'd be all in favor of returning them. Since that doesn't appear to be the case (except maybe outside the US), it seems like a better way to recycle the trailers would be to make friends with the owner of a smaller theatre and let him come by periodically and take what he wants. This benefits the distributors (because their product gets more advertising) and the smaller exhibitors (because they get trailers without having to pay for shipping) without really harming the first-run house. Same for posters and other promotional stuff.

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Paul Harnden
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 - posted 02-01-2002 01:05 AM      Profile for Paul Harnden   Email Paul Harnden   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Never returned trailers, but never heard of the possible $50 prize. Oh well, even if I did get that back my ol' head projectionist would've prolly pocketed it. We usually kept the used ones just in case the distributor didn't send the required ones in the can or if we received a used print with all the trailers missing. When the movie would come out we'd store it in a box to be thrown out.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 02-01-2002 03:32 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
The Paramount $50 prize is actually real. I've won it before, and from the looks of it, so have a few other people on this thread.

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