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Steve I do agree with your comment about change over, the last Prevost job I was involved in, the change over operated so badly that we disconnected all the on board stuff and wired in our own. Now it changes over when you press the button, like any sensible system. From the factory you started the motor on cue, and the machines changed over, seven seconds after motor start, on their own, with no operator pushing the C/O button! You can't miss Kelmar change overs going 'CLUNK' as confirmation that you've done it! Wire the same buttons into a simple relay system to change over sound and you're away.

The 16mm side of the Nº2 projector there is on the left, as per stand alone Phillips/Kinoton 16mm.

(That's is a frequent scenario for us here at MIT, where we do changeover and don't have any automated lens turrets.)

This is assuming we're talking about a case where the operator sides are facing each other.

--jhawk

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The current kinotons do have the buttons stupidly facing front. There is an option (for money) to have the buttons face the operator. One can also make any sort of foot or other type of switch of their liking. Using dry contact closures, all of the projector functions are remotable.

Steve

There are fairly good manuals for those projectors in existence, I'd yell at whoever sold them until I got them. Sometimes the seprate FP 30 and FP 16 books have more details than the combined book. That stuff must be much older than 3 years, Kinoton hasn't made dubbers for a long time. The newer equipment has much, much better manuals, and they're improving all the time. The factory now has a full time manual writer. While many years ago Kinoton projector manuals were pretty lame, I don't know of anyone currently producing better ones.

Steve,

What was the last machine you got with front buttons? The only model that may still have front buttons is the basic FP 30D, and we'll continue to get rid of them. When I used to run a booth with the front buttons I got used to them pretty quickly, so they didn't really think of them as a problem, but that's not to say there aren't better locations. I actually really like our current backlit buttons in that small switch box, especially when its mounted fairly high up. When its down low because the upper space is used for digital readers, I'm still fighting to get the factory to angle the box up. The parts of me at that elevation have no eyes.

What was the last machine you got with front buttons?"<< An FP38ES last April because we didn't order the optional operator facing panel that you mention in your post. In that installation, there was a full remote contol to be used for 95% of all operation so the operator facing panel wasn't deemed necessary.

For your reference, the option is part number 0040 140 001200 and must be ordered for each projector (this is a factory installed option for the FP-30E series) and carries a list price of $270.00.

I believe for the PK-60E it is standard equipment. As to the panel location, high or low depends on the particular installation. A high mount is mostly preferred unless the projector must mounted on a riser. Mounting it above the lens brings the operator's arm (and possible bracelets) close or into the projection beam. Mounted low (below the lens) tends to have the controls somewhere near pocket height.

We have taken to having a separate control box with just the motor and changeover functions since at changeover time, having a mass of identical looking buttons (except STOP which is red) can be confusing and lead to botched changovers (and no-no in my book). One shouldn't have to look for their controls when making a changeover.

Now before picking on Kinoton too much on their control panel, one must reflect on just how many other projector manufacturers provide any manual buttons! While they once may have provided a motor switch (and on some that was on the pedestal) and some may have provided a changeover pushbutton (if you bought their sound system) not too many now have manual switches since they are presummed on the automation. Kinoton also provides for one to install any manual switches they choose...all with low-voltage using dry contact closures.

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