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Joe Beres
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 - posted 03-11-2002 10:35 AM      Profile for Joe Beres   Email Joe Beres   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Our rep at Swank has told me that they do not hold any 35mm prints, so that is news to me, but it certainly wouldn't be the first bit of misinformation that they have provided. Perhaps they do not actually own the prints, but the studios provide a print to their respective depot/vault that is only for Swank's non-theatrical use.

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Tao Yue
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Joe Beres said:
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Perhaps they do not actually own the prints, but the studios provide a print to their respective depot/vault that is only for Swank's non-theatrical use.

I believe that is the case, as some prints arrive labelled "Swank/title of film" with a one-digit print number (as opposed to being labeled just with the title and a multi-digit print number).


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John Pytlak
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Depending on the age and storage conditions of the print, "aging shrinkage" on acetate color print film can approach 0.40% lengthwise and 0.50% widthwise shrinkage. With the polyester (ESTAR) film base used on today's Kodak VISION Color Print Film, the potential aging shrinkage is only 0.04%:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/support/h1/baseP.shtml

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
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Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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John Hawkinson
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So, tell us John, what's the difference between 2383 and 2393 (premier)? It wasn't obvious to me leafing around...

--jhawk

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John Pytlak
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The difference is in the "look". KODAK VISION Premier Color Print Film offers "richer" blacks, higher contrast and more saturated colors:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/fall98/print.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/2383.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/2393.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/july2000/gladiator.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/oct2000/czechSlovak.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/july99/late.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/april2001/brother.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/july2001/ambrose.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/reel/september98/visionFilms.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/oct2000/jubaku.shtml
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/newsletters/inCamera/july99/sun.shtml

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
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Frank Angel
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John H. is right -- Swank does own some 35mm prints; the print we got of WEST SIDE STORY last month was nearly mint, and a great surprise for us as MGM sent us one of their "best" prints last year and it was pretty battered up. Swank had this new print struck because some execs at Turner payed for it for reasons unknown. Otherwise, as John said, execpt for these very few odd titles, Swank doesn't own 35mm prints; they get them from the studios for their non-theatrical clients who happen to have 35mm setups.

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