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Topic: Shutting down at night
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Michael Brown
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1522
From: Bradford, England
Registered: May 2001
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posted 06-16-2002 11:08 AM
My rack is connected to just one 'thing on the wall' (Don't know specifically if it is a switch or a breaker) excluding the cd player and mixer.Power up Flip the switch on the wall Switch the amps one one at a time Power Down Switch the amps off one at a time Flip the switch on the wall
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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1907
From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 06-16-2002 02:13 PM
Unless I'm missunderstanding, it seems like some people are recommending shutting off the actual power switches on each item (I'm not talking about older improper instillations that Dave is referring to), and some are recommending just using the breakers. Just so every one knows what I'm using, here is a picture of the switches (are they breakers??) on our consoles: This is our sound rack: The crossover doesn't have a power switch, but the CP650, the monitor, and the amps all do. And I believe the switch on the console does control a contactor, because you can hear a loud pop (although not as loud as some theaters I've seen) when you turn on the sound rack, whether each piece of equipment was turned of with its power switch or not. This is a brand new installation, so I can only hope that all the breakers were wired properly. Although we never touch the breaker boxes on the wall, I'll check those out next time I work.
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-16-2002 02:49 PM
Ken:If your cinema has prescribed a shut-down procedure you should follow it; I wouldn't advise you to go ahead and develop your own way of doing things on your own. You're going to get a lot of good advice here but just make sure it doesn't put you in harm's way. Not to be a pessimist or anything, but there's that old adage: "No good deed goes unpunished." There also tends to be politics in the booths and if it looks like you're making a bid for Booth Lead or Supervisor, your coworkers can start doing stuff to make you look bad. The solution to that is to stay in communication with your superiors regarding what you are doing and why you do things the way you do. As for tweaking the equipment, just make sure that you don't end up creating extra work for your tech. I've had some booth operators who got ahead of themselves by trying to be "helpful" and they created extra work for me and one of them eventually became an usher as a result. Just some friendly advice.
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Thomas Procyk
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1842
From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-16-2002 04:49 PM
When I worked at an older 8-plex built around 1989, we would have to shut off all of the amps one by one before we flipped the switch on the sound rack or it would trip the breaker. I'm not sure what brand/manufacturer these sound racks were as most of the text had rubbed off over the years, but I will try to describe them the best I can: The entire "sound rack" was a self-contained processor, monitor, and amp unit. They were "christie teal" in color, the larger ones sat on the floor (8 amps in the cabinet) and the smaller ones were wall-mounted (3 to 4 amps in the cabinet). The wall mounted ones would swing open for servicing. I have also seen one of these exact same units in the "cinema" our university was interested in restoring at one point. Ultra Stereo perhaps? I remember one day one of the amps didn't come on when I flipped its corresponding switch. I went to flip it off, then back on and it shot sparks at me!  They have since replaced the processors and such with Dolby CP-50s I believe. Perhaps Mr. Donald Dixon who works at the location now (posted here a few months ago) could give more details. =TMP=
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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 06-16-2002 10:23 PM
I'm actually surprised that more theatres don't have the power sequencers installed. I don't have a brand or model number handy, but I've seen them in "legitimate" theater installations and they work very well.Without a power sequencer, some processors (CP-50 for sure and, I think, CP-200 as well) _will_ damage speakers if you power up the entire rack at once, unless the amps are QSCs or some other type that has a delayed power feature. The CP-500 and CP-65 do not have this "feature," however. I've never seen a CP-650, so I have no idea if this is an issue (probably not, but...). This is the problem that Paul and others have mentioned. Brad -- I've seen several booths with one breaker for the entire sound rack. Yes, they all have/had low-power sound systems (and weren't digital).
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