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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 10-25-2002 10:45 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Also, the later version of the spacers that go between the end of the projector drive pinion and the main casting were changed to a ball bearing thrust washer assy. These work alot better and create alot less friction than just plain old spacers. You can probably get this bearing and and thrust washers at a local bearing distributer. I guarantee you that the fibre drive gear is making the whine. While the RCA and Simplex gears may look similar the pitch is actually different. Don't remember how much but its enough to throw off the mesh a bit and make all that noise.
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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 10-26-2002 01:04 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As far as the whine is concerned, loosen the four mounting screws that hold the adapter plate on the soundhead, start the projector, and try to twist the projector head one way or another to see if the whine diminishes. If the projector is cocked off one way or the other even as much as a fraction of a degree, it'll whine.

Mark, I didn't know there was a ball bearing retro for the pinion gear. Cool....


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 10-26-2002 09:12 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul, its only a thrust bearing though, not a ball bearing to that goes on the shaft.
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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 10-26-2002 01:17 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's what I presumed. Probably something like the big thrust bearing used on the opposite end of the pinion.


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Sam Hunter
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 - posted 10-28-2002 11:00 PM      Profile for Sam Hunter   Email Sam Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I should be getting the correct drive gear sometime next week.
As far as the intermittant goes, I say its noisy and all that but I have examined it on my workbench and I can find no binding, no loose shafts, the star wheel doesn't look worn, the gears look in good shape, perfectly square, no broken or worn teeth. The roller pin rolls ok, doesnt stick. Turning the flywheel with one finger I feel no binding. So the moral of this story is:
Leave it be, replace the drive gear with the correct one, and buy a spare projector.
I appreciate all the help from everyone and for Dicks great advise on the phone the other day.
Later.....

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Sam Hunter
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 - posted 11-01-2002 02:31 PM      Profile for Sam Hunter   Email Sam Hunter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The more or less finished project.
Note the RCA lamphouse.
The noise I've been complaining about was not the intermittant. It turned out to be the shutter shaft after all. I found where it had been "worked on" before and that there was some binding. Removed the whole assembly, cleaned, polished the mating surfaces and the shafts and cleaned the bores so to speak and reassembled. No binding, minimul noise.Also, I have been able to find another BX80 so I will have two soon. It still needs a paint job but I am going to wait a while for that.
Anyway, thanks for all the help.


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Paul G. Thompson
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Sam, how in the devil did you luck out on getting the shutter shaft bracket with its shafts running without slight binding or dragging the other shaft along with it when spun by hand without the bevel gear bracket installed? I was NEVER successful in that area. Please tell us your secret.


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Sam Hunter
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I am not sure about why there would be a problem but I made sure the mating surfaces was as clean as possible and I tightened all the mounting screws in stages, not just one all the way tight then the next but started from the center and tightened in a criss cross fashion. I wish I could have torqued them as I think that may be an issue. Also, I noticed the coupler ring was very touchy as to how it was tightened as well. I tightened the screws on that in a back and forth method and "felt" how the shaft felt after each turn.
I must say that after going through this thing it is very easy to work on and really appreciate the design.
I removed the oil pump and cleaned it out as well as replacing the neoprene hose. This increased the oil flow considerably.
Again, I don't understand why these things would be so temperamental as long as you don’t drop them or alter the mating surfaces.
Anyway, I am satisfied for the moment and thanks for all the advice so far.

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Jeff Stricker
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 - posted 11-02-2002 06:07 AM      Profile for Jeff Stricker   Email Jeff Stricker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sam, looks great. Congrats on getting it running!

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