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Author Topic: Disneyland projectionists Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-01-2002 11:09 AM                     Darryl -- We visited Hall of Presidents in May of this past summer, so it's good to hear they have the problem fixed. Mark -- I worked for Universal Studios briefly during their Halloween Horror Nights event. (I got to scur people, hehe) I never thought of asking to see the booths. Next year, I'll be 21 and will give it a shot! =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Steve Scott Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1300 From: Minneapolis, MN Registered: Sep 2000 posted 12-01-2002 10:10 PM                     I remember the Hitchcock exhibit at Universal Orlando used two projectors for the film retrospective. I think one was used for 3D and the other was for the actual film. But it seemed to feel like most of the rides had the resolution of a laserdisc...  |  IP: Logged Bernard Tonks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-02-2002 06:03 AM                     Been to Orlando three times over the years, and have always been very impressed with film presentations, particularly 3D in all the Theme Parks, and prints were always in pristine condition. Was in California a couple of months ago, SAN FRANCISCO EXPERIENCE 5/70 Cinemax was a disaster as the print was badly scratched and trashed, also there was a bad focus problem. Hearst Castle Iwerks was very good. PIRATES 3D at Seaworld LA was excellent, as was TERMINATOR 3D at Universal LA.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 12-02-2002 08:31 AM                    I've been to WDW several times and have always enjoyed the Muppet 3D movie, and Captain EO (whatever happened to that guy, anyway???) when that was out. I've always been very impressed with those shows. However the Bug's Life and Honey I Shrunk The Audience always seemed to have a problem everytime I saw them. I could always see the digital characters twice. In other words, my brain didn't like to converge the left and right images together. Particularly when they got closer to me. Weird. Maybe their shutter sync was slightly off? Terminator 3D at Universal was pretty awesome too. I just can't convince my brain that those digital characters in those other two movies are real. The closer they get, the less my brain believes it. Although I have no problem with the little blue blob guy in the Muppet 3D movie. Maybe it's me.  |  IP: Logged Jan Hackett Expert Film Handler Posts: 148 From: Albuquerque, NM, USA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 12-02-2002 11:33 AM                     Michael Rourke said "I'm sure Jan Hackett considers herself a projectionist even though she runs an endless loop. It all depends on what you're doing when you're not threading (or lacing) up all the time." Actually I do not run an endless loop...Platter here...but the ride simulator has the loop cabinet and is 5:70. And I ran a lot of 35mm before I before I got into Large format..........  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-02-2002 02:30 PM                        The care taken by most of the special venue theatres allows print life extending into the tens of thousands of runs. Most of the loop systems have air filtration and on-line cleaning to keep the prints spotlessly clean. Because of its strength and durability, KODAK ESTAR base film has been the film of choice for special venue theatres long before feature films converted to polyester prints.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-02-2002 03:39 PM                     quote: PIRATES 3D at Seaworld LA was excellent Seaworld is in San Diego (not LA) , and yes, Pirates 3D is awsome. They use two 70mm prints running on loop.  |  IP: Logged Larry Shaw Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Boston, MA, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-02-2002 03:57 PM                        Art Averett, who is on here periodically, works in WDW, perhaps he'll fill us in. I understand that a few years ago WD made dramatic cuts in their projection engineering staff to save $. Some real good long-timers, for instance Bob Ray, departed, and I'm sure that hasn't helped presentation.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-02-2002 04:04 PM                        Another "long timer" from Walt Disney World was Tom Jozwiak.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Lee Film Handler Posts: 99 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-02-2002 04:10 PM                     quote: However the Bug's Life and Honey I Shrunk The Audience always seemed to have a problem everytime I saw them. I could always see the digital characters twice. In other words, my brain didn't like to converge the left and right images together. Particularly when they got closer to me. Weird. Maybe their shutter sync was slightly off? Mark, I have heard this comment before. What you saw basically was ghost images due to "over convergence" of the two images. Some people can fuse two images better than others. It does get more difficult when a 3D presentation goes a little too far and tries to put the 3D effect in your lap (spear chucking). Try this as an example. Point your finger straight up and put it in front of your face about 24" away. Slowly bring it to your nose but try and keep your whole finger in focus. At some point you will see a double image of your finger. Some people can bring their finger closer to their faces more comfortably than others. Same with watching a 3D presentation. Over convergence sometimes pushes the natural limits of our ability to properly fuse two images into a 3D image.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Boisson Expert Film Handler Posts: 157 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Oct 2001 posted 12-03-2002 01:25 AM                     I was in Orlando this most recent summer. I kinda thought it was digital, because of the quality, and I honestly didn't think they put that much into presentation. I saw the Bug's Life 3D show in the animal kingdom, and the Muppet's Show at MGM, both were excellent quality. I looked for any scratches or marks, and couldn't find either. Working at Disneyworld, as a projectionist, would probably have to be my dream job.  |  IP: Logged Bernard Tonks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-03-2002 04:56 AM                     quote: Seaworld is in San Diego (not LA) , and yes, Pirates 3D is awsome. They use two 70mm prints running on loop. Mike, Thanks for correcting me. We did a 12-day tour with a very busy schedule that included San Diego. I would have liked to have visited some traditional city cinemas and theatres of historic value. Only two hours in Hollywood Boulevard before setting off to LA airport for homeward bound. It was sad to see so many closed cinemas in the Boulevard, I counted at least 8. I remember two signs, being the Fox, and the Vogue.  |  IP: Logged Darren Briggs Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: York, UK Registered: Dec 2001 posted 12-04-2002 05:13 PM                        I belive the T2:3D has 6 70mm projectors in use, as at one pint it is like 3 panel 70mm 3D cinerama, very impresive! The Honey I Shrunk the Kids is 70mm 3D i was told and it looked like it to me too. I'm sure that WDW is bothered about quality shows and the reason you can't se any dirt of scrathes on the prints is because they ar well looked after, im sure many people on here will agree we can show films hundreds of times and they leave the cinema like new, so i see no reason that they wouldnt do thousands of shows if required and still look new, its the technial back-up and projectionist that keep them looking like this. If anyone is in Europe, Futuroscope in the south of france is a must see, Every Imax format is there along with Showscan, 3D and even the largest video wall in the world. Best 3D ive ever seen is a toss up between T2:3D at Universal, or IMAX SOLIDO in Futuroscope, both mind blowing. Darren  |  IP: Logged John Eickhof Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 588 From: Wendell, ID USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 12-04-2002 07:48 PM                        Actually Disney has a large staff of Projectionists and engineer/techs. I have an old friend I worked with at Altec years ago who went onto work at Dismal land in Anaheim, in fact he just retired a couple years ago. Tommy Oliphant had taken me through the park and I was amazed to see many busy working people in every booth I saw! They are quite dilligent, well paid and do an excellent job! Yes, the number of Balco 35/70s is amazing as well as the Disney and CFS cabinets! Tommy worked there for over 20 years! He always said it was a great job!! It beat spinning reels in any house in LA!  |  IP: Logged Bernie Anderson Jr Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Woodbridge, New Jersey Registered: Apr 2000 posted 12-04-2002 10:05 PM                        I've always been impressed not only with the presentation at WDW but how flawless it is. Now, everyone is forgetting the "American Adventure" at Epcot. All the backdrops for the animated figures are done by film. And has been that way since it's opening in the early 80's. I still can't quite figure out how it's done. It's all rear projection. Now the one that got me this time was the "Honey I shrunk the Audience" Wow! William Castle would have been proud. Although it was 2 strip 3D, it wasn't as "Gag" as it could have been. I was quite impressed how the image gave you the depth of the stage and made you feel that they were on stage. Yes you did have things coming out at you, but it wasn't so far in your face that it kills your eyes. The depth is what really got me. Now it's funny, how some people said they say flaws. In all the years I've been going there I've never seen any kind of blemish. It makes you get pissed at some of these operators that scratch film on build up. Here's Disney with tens of thousands of runs and still remain flawless. Now that's film-don-right!  |  IP: Logged

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