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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 05-13-2003 06:01 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Steve, will IR LED's also work with the DD CCD array?

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
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The change to cyan can hardly be called an "upgrade"...in fact, it is properly called a DOWNGRADE...it is inferior to redeveloped tracks. The only benefit is to the labs and to the red reader manufacturers (the biggest one being Dolby).

I'd encourage the exhibitors to call their lawyers and sue a distributor for forcing a cyan track on them...or they could provide the red readers with the print (and a check for its installation).

Steve

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Paul Trimboli
Master Film Handler

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I have noticed that on soundtrack with High Magenta they really make the gate dirty, the rag we use to clean the gate is full of that colour, would Cyan do the same? Does normal B/W do this but you just can't see it on the metal?

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John Pytlak
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quote:
I have noticed that on soundtrack with High Magenta they really make the gate dirty, the rag we use to clean the gate is full of that colour, would Cyan do the same? Does normal B/W do this but you just can't see it on the metal?

The only difference between traditional (magenta+cyan+silver) tracks and "high magenta" (magenta+silver) is the color of the exposure given the soundtrack area during printing. The film stock is the same, and silver is redeveloped in both cases. "High Magenta" tracks have the advantage of having cross-modulation distortion characteristics that are more compatible with today's MIX of red LED and tungsten light readers.

If you are seeing magenta debris, it's likely you have some abrasion of the film. The color is magenta because that's the topmost imaging layer on print film, not because it is a "high magenta" track. The cyan layer is the middle imaging layer, so it should be less affected by abrasion.

The emulsion of silver-image B&W prints can be abraded, but any debris would be white or gray in color.

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