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Author Topic: Platter footprints Fred Georges Master Film Handler Posts: 257 From: Lombard, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 03-16-2003 02:01 PM                     Hi Sam, Are you considering a platter for home use? Before you commit you may want to check out using a film tower. You're a handy guy and could build one I'd think for about $2-300.00. Check out Greg Muellers'home theatre pix in the picture archive. He built a very practical one.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-16-2003 04:33 PM                     Hey Fred, I am considering that as well, just thought a platter would be cooler. I built a 6K setup for my 16mm setup and it worked great so I may build one for 35mm too but wanted to see how much space it required and how much trouble it would be to use.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-16-2003 05:01 PM                     Be forewarned that you need to have some kind of backtension on the feed reel. Also you need to make sure your unit can rewind with proper tension (extremely difficult on those large reels) or you are headed for film damage. (Ask Greg as he went through this in building his.) Also the large reels are very scarce and prohibitably expensive if you want to buy them new. A platter (if you have the room) makes a whole lot more sense and is much easier on the film than a tower. Used platters are a plenty, but you have to make sure to get a good one. (Not one in good condition, but good meaning quality design.)  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-16-2003 05:06 PM                        For those who use platters at home: how do you store your prints? Do you keep them on 2000' or 6000' reels and make them up onto the platter for each show? Or do you get a bunch of platter center rings and clamps and store your prints ready to run?  |  IP: Logged Neil McGovern Film Handler Posts: 35 From: Sheffield, UK Registered: May 2002 posted 03-16-2003 07:04 PM                        We use Cinemecannica CNR3-35s Opinions on them?  |  IP: Logged Fred Georges Master Film Handler Posts: 257 From: Lombard, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 03-16-2003 07:12 PM                     Amen to to that Brother. I used to scoff at the idea that back feed tension was necessary on a tower till I started working with an eprad double mutt and saw how gentle it could be. A decent used platter is going to set you back some dough though. If I may be permitted to "Morph" this thread I'd like to pose this question. Assuming NO failsafes which would you be more comfortable walking away from while in operation. A platter(any make) or a double mutt or tower? Nothing inferred, just curious.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-16-2003 07:18 PM                        Now that depends on how the take-up on the tower is powered and if there is any possibility that it can stop. Actually, that doesn't matter -- platter wins. If I set up the platter I've got no problem with setting the start timer and going across town for dinner. Not that I do that.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-16-2003 07:34 PM                     If the tower is driven by a belt then no way, not without a failsafe. I've worked/known of too many reel to reel places where the damn belt broke during a show and there was no failsafe to stop the film from piling up underneath the projector.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-16-2003 07:41 PM                     Under the projector is when you're lucky. The much worse failures are when the takeup failure causes the the film to build up inside the sound cabinet, potentially damaging the projector as well as the film. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 03-17-2003 04:31 PM                     Footprints on your platter? Has Ian been round your place recently?  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-18-2003 12:28 AM                       Don't forget, on a DBL-MUT, the film is being pushed off the supply reel.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Duggan Expert Film Handler Posts: 127 From: Albany, NY, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-18-2003 09:28 AM                        quote: Not to mention, the number of scars I have on my ass from getting gored by pieces of sharp metal sticking out! Couldn't have said it better myself. I have this one really ugly jagged scar on my lower back from lacing too close to the box. The night I did it, it took me about 20 minutes to realize that I was leaving a small trail of blood behind me as I walked around the booth. Needless to say, my clothes were completely ruined...  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:17 PM                     Would I be considered weird if I said I will just stay with 6K reels and have an intermission. May go to a "tower" later on. Can you get smaller "Platters" ? later  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:29 PM                     Christie makes a "Miniwind" which is kind-of like a baby-brother to the Autowind AW3 and AW3R. The platter discs are smaller and, hence, the capacity (footage, running time) is less. I'd be willing to bet that Brad could tell you just how much footage the Miniwind decks can accommodate. If not, someone else is bound to know. As for the intermission -- If it isn't the director's intent to have an intermission then you are defeating the whole purpose of running 35mm at home. But that's just MY opinion...and I'm sticking with it. Note to Daryl: Leaving a projector unattended is serious business. This can't be overstated. It's just wrong. I don't care if you're just going next door for a milk shake or a latte or perhaps to the pub across the street for a gin-and-gatorade with maybe an olive or a twist of citrus to calm your nerves because it was a long, hard day and nobody seems to understand just how painful it can be to be the short one, or the tall one for that matter...all right, I'm straying off-topic...So, okay, maybe I don't know what your situation is, but I do know how it is: Sometimes we just need that drink. But drinking isn't the answer...and leaving a projector running -- failsafe or not -- just isn't cricket. OKAY!?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-19-2003 10:31 PM                     Roughly 3 1/2 hours.  |  IP: Logged

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