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Author Topic: Platter footprints Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:33 PM                     3 1/2 hours huh? I bet finding a used one that size would be a pretty tough act. Guess I could go the "changeover" route. My "projection room" will not have a whole lot of space and I do not wish to be to cramped up to much.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:33 PM                        quote: defeating the whole purpose of running 35mm at home The WHOLE purpose? I wouldn't go that far. Sam, just get yourself some 7K reels, load them up with about 8K feet of film and don't run anything longer than 89 minutes.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:37 PM                     Will have to wait and see how things work out I guess.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:39 PM                     See? I knew Brad would know. But I wouldn't have guessed it would be that much. Makes me wonder how come the Miniwind isn't more popular.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-19-2003 10:40 PM                     quote: Christie makes a "Miniwind" which is kind-of like a baby-brother to the Autowind AW3 and AW3R. The platter discs are smaller and, hence, the capacity (footage, running time) is less. There are two versions of the Christie MW3 (Miniwind): The early version with a single motherboard that the three motor control cards plug into, and the later version that is laid out exactly as a full-size AW3 with the electronic components separated on the tree. The 'single-board' models have a nasty tendency to catch fire (I have had two of them do exactly this) which destroys the 'motherboard' that Christie no longer carries replacements for nor supports!! (Once again, been there, done that.) The early ones can be retrofitted to the later model's tree for around $1600 a pop. The late model MW3 doesn't have these problems with going up in a blaze of glory, and all the components are easily replaceable with standard AW3 parts. quote: I'd be willing to bet that Brad could tell you just how much footage the Miniwind decks can accommodate. If not, someone else is bound to know. The movie 'Amistad' came within 1/2" of the edge of the platter on an MW3. I believe that was 2h 40m of film. No room for a 'poo' with that much film either. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:46 PM                     Maybe I should have stuck with 16mm nahhh!! I wanted a brenkert and by gum I got two of em. With any luck I will be purchasing a new home and I will be able to get rid of my modified engine stand pedestal (For sale) and go to my genuine 4 point brenkert Base along with full stereo sound (CP50) and remote controlled screen . My biggest problem is getting my wife to let me cut a hole in her wall for a projection port into our living room  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:47 PM                        Manny -- the ONLY time I leave the booth is to check the sound and picture from within each of the auditoriums. I only said that I would be confident that a properly set up platter system could run itself if the need arises. I was simply answering Fred's question which was: quote: Assuming NO failsafes which would you be more comfortable walking away from while in operation. A platter(any make) or a double mutt or tower? Nothing inferred, just curious.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-19-2003 10:49 PM                     Heres another question. Can someone give me the lowdown on how cue detectors work? Do these things have failsafes on them as well?  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-19-2003 11:03 PM                     Daryl, I was just messing with you. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me. Pleeeaase? Sam -- cue detector i use is the component engineering fm-35 and it can accept inboard, outboard and/or centre cues. Because of how wonderful my automation is (pennywise ca-21) I only need the centre cue. How it works -- it's a proximity detector, so we use metal foil to excite the sensors and it sends a pulse to the automation. each zone (inboard, centre, outboard) has its own lead, which gives you some flexibility... centre could be your lens cue inboard could be lights up/down outboard could be dowser open/close or whatever you want. my automation just looks for a pulse and then it does whatever is next in the program. that's why i only need the centre detector. the fm35 is also a failsafe. it detects if film is present and also if film is in motion.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-19-2003 11:06 PM                        I know... I'm just hungry. I ran out of nachos. Shoulda bought more than 4 bags.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-19-2003 11:20 PM                     Oh Manny! I must insist that you get over to the theater immediately and change the wiring to use either the inboard or outboard edge cue on your FM35. There is simply no excuse to have a cue in the middle of the picture when you have such a fabulous automation as the CA21 which doesn't force you to.  |  IP: Logged Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-19-2003 11:29 PM                     Nachos! yummmm  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-20-2003 12:54 PM                     Ya know, Brad...I never thought about it that way. It was an AMC thing to use a cross-cue on a frame-line and old habits die hard, I guess. Besides, it never bothered me. I could go ahead and change it but first I would need to hold a training session to make sure that everybody's on the new program. The next general training that we do just before the Summer season gets underway. Something like this would have to wait until then. Thanks for the tip.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-20-2003 01:02 PM                     Tell your builders to "double cue" the prints for the next month or so. Then when you go in to make the change, all of your prints won't need to be recued. Just have them put a center and inboard edge cue side by side.  |  IP: Logged Chris Markiewicz Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: Glenaviegh, County Tipperary, Ireland Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-20-2003 03:31 PM                     The Miniwind is rated by Christie to hold up to 2 hours 15 minutes of film. The most I ever put on ours was 2 hours 40 minutes, and I had to gaffer tape the Christie suckers on because they were hanging off the edge. It did not like running that last reel.  |  IP: Logged

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