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Author Topic: Moving Image Technologies Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-06-2003 02:36 AM                     quote: The logic was that cues sometimes fall off. I've never actually seen this happen. I have. The cues usually get caught in the gate. Also some of the real el-cheapo cue tape which is nothing more than chrome-plated Mylar or paper adhesive tape usually would wear itself to nonconductivity within 2-3 weeks. Using cue tape made of 100% metal foil solves that problem, though they can still vanish in the gate if not applied properly. quote: what are "Actua II" type cues? 'Actua II' is Xetron's name for its foil cues that come pre-slit on 3x5 sheets. I use 'em for reversing cues on reel to reel tapes -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-06-2003 03:50 AM                     I have never had problems with the Aucuta II cues. Maybe there is something wrong with your failsafe?  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 10-06-2003 05:38 PM                     quote: Having no start cue can also make interlocks a pain to start. Most automation I've worked with do not require a start cue for single-theater operation, but do for interlock operation. In that case I can see why they are used.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-06-2003 05:56 PM                        I've only run interlock shows with Xetron Maxi-10 automations; with those, there's no start cue. The operator just hits "start" manually with the "8" on the leader runs through the gate and repeats this process at each machine. I don't really see the problem with this, since the operator would want to check each screen as the show starts, anyway. It's not like it needs to be frame accurate, anyway. The Component Engineering TA-10 uses a start cue for interlock shows, but I've never run an interlock show with those. I've only worked with full-manual booths and with simple automations like the TA-10 and Maxi-10; at this point, I'm beginning to think that I'd really love something like a peg-board-style automation system. I want the flexibility of a manual booth (including changeovers and all sound formats, fader adjustments, intermissions, 16mm/video/slides/other formats, etc.) and the repeatability of automation (with the capability of running full manual, of course). For one-off shows, it would be great to be able to run without cues and just execute the next "event" in the series (e.g. lights down/format 10/fader 7.0/changeover) with one button, rather than having to do several things at once. Film festivals and such are fun, but it gets a little annoying when a program with a mix of 35mm film and video (or 16mm) requires three operators.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-06-2003 08:53 PM                        Joe - IIRC means If I Recall Correctly.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 10-06-2003 09:19 PM                     Some more thoughts about the automation: Do the start and stop buttons have lights on them? I'd like to see something similar to what the CNA-150 has: when a show is not threaded, the stop button is lit (IIRC; if not, I think it should be). When threaded, the start button is blinking. When running, the start button is constantly illuminated. If the show stops for any reason the alarms sounds and the stop button blinks. The alarm is cancelled by pushing the stop button. I know this is designed to be a simple electro-mechanical automation, not a fancy computer-based one. But will it feature any type of programig options (such as the cue matrix on the Big Sky automation), or are all cue functions factory set? Finally, when will it be commercially released?  |  IP: Logged Bevan Wright Expert Film Handler Posts: 176 From: Fountain Valley, CA, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-07-2003 10:22 AM                        Start,stop and cue buttons all have LED indicators. The four primary cues are pre-assigned, there are two optional cues and two optional switches that can be customized based on the exhibitors requirements. Early next year for the first major equipment products, look for the full-line at ShoWest in late March.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 10-07-2003 07:49 PM                    Bevan, how about a lamphouse or console with provision for duct hookup on the input as well as the output sides? Not only would this allow provision for control over the cooling air temp, filtration, etc. but perhaps more importantly would vastly reduce the air flow through the booth and make its temp, humidity, filtration easier to control.  |  IP: Logged Bevan Wright Expert Film Handler Posts: 176 From: Fountain Valley, CA, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 10-07-2003 08:04 PM                        Steve, as a matter of fact, that was one of the underlying concepts on the new console cooling design. The air intake is on the back top of the console (the only lamphouse intake) it will be simple to duct filtered AC to this intake area (and extract the 8" exhaust) separating the console from the booth environmental load (except for any radiant heat from the surfaces and powersupply of course).  |  IP: Logged Trevor Bailey Expert Film Handler Posts: 113 From: Woonsocket, RI Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-07-2003 10:37 PM                        Bevan, I know I speak for many of us at NCS when I say best of luck and we look forward to seeing your products. So, is Jud holding down the Christie ship by himself now?  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-08-2003 05:56 AM                        The ability to use an outside air supply for lamphouse cooling is a great idea. Current designs that suck all that conditioned air from the projection room just to cool the lamp make it very difficult to maintain proper temperature and humidity in the projection room. Obviously, you need to pay attention the the cleanliness, temperature, and RH of the incoming air, but at least a separate intake would offer installers the option of where to get that air.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-08-2003 09:36 AM                     Up here in the north we used to provide a airinlet duct to the cinemecanica consoles years ago mainly so as one walked by the airflow switchs didn't trip but it did keep the booth enviorment better  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-09-2003 12:31 AM                        I've seen horizontal Xenon booths in Alabama & Mississippi before (90s, possibly 80s install) with AC ducted into the exhaust duct. I put my hand under the "inlets" and felt the cold air coming out. I wondered briefly about reversing the air flow, but hey, if it worked...  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-09-2003 05:33 AM                        quote: I've seen horizontal Xenon booths in Alabama & Mississippi before (90s, possibly 80s install) with AC ducted into the exhaust duct. I put my hand under the "inlets" and felt the cold air coming out. I wondered briefly about reversing the air flow, but hey, if it worked... Not a good practice. It would risk having very poor airflow within the lamphouse, and would force any hazardous ozone produced by the lamp and high voltage ignition back into the projection room.  |  IP: Logged

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