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Gilbert Travin
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 101
From: Villeurbanne / France
Registered: Jan 2004


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Hi

I know that France is very far from America !

In Lyon, we have a manufacturer of 35 mm portable projectors : Buisse and Bottazzi ; their machines are very robust and removable xenon lamphouse equipped. These machines are used for mobile cinema (a little city which have'nt cinema but have a conference hall can rent the projector ...)
If you are interested I can find their address ...

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Richard Fowler
Film God

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From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
Registered: Jun 2001


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Gilbert,
I thought B & B has gone out of business. They produced both 16 and 35mm projectors which where very well made.

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Webster Colcord
Film Handler

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From: Alameda, California
Registered: Oct 2003


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Here's a Tokiwa for sale on ebay for a starting bid of $300. Sounds like from what Mark was saying that this wouldn't be worth it, and I think that this seller has had the item listed before. Either that or he has a warehouse full of them- which might be the case judging from the picture.

T-60

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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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I agree, Phil. Many a people love those old DeVrys and some who have them are very proud of them. But to me, they ain't worth a plug nickel. [fu]

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Mitchell Dvoskin
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: West Milford, NJ, USA
Registered: Jan 2001


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Hi Scott,

I ran a MP30 in my home screeing room for 10 years before I upgraded to a Kinoton FP23X. I ran 6000' reels with no problems, and it never scratched film. I modified one of my two MP30's for analog stereo, and removed the incandescent lamp and reflector so I could use a Kneisley 500 watt xenon with it.

/Mitchell

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Peter Hall
Master Film Handler

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From: London, UK
Registered: Dec 2000


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What about the PX and LX series of Veronese machines ? They use 70.6mm lenses, like any larger machine, and give "projector in a suitcase " performance like a larger machine...

Look at www.fproj.com

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Mitchell Cope
Master Film Handler

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From: Overland Park, KS, United States
Registered: Jun 99


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I have a Shinkyo portable. AVE resold it as the AVE 35mm Transportable. I think these were made in the 1960s. Rangertone, from whom I've bought parts, said this machine was really popular at one time with CBS. Mine can be seen on the Pictures page under my name. I've not had any problems with it damaging film. As opposed to the Holmes, it has alot of finger space. I found mine on eBay for $1000.

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Brian Guckian
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From: Dublin, Ireland
Registered: Apr 2003


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Look no further than Proyecson's Portable 2000 currently rolling off the production line in Valencia, Spain!

This is a very good machine for its price...a proper xenon lamphouse with glass reflector...fully demountable and can take up to 2K lamps...optional long play base, or buy a pair for C/Os (where you can run up to 6000ft reels)...complies with the usual SMPTE standards. They do a nifty rectifier too!

I used one before Christmas here and was very pleased with it. It's very well engineered and robust. The version I had could only take 62.5mm lenses, but they're now making the standard 70.6mm barrel available.

Check out www.proyecson.com ...usual disclaimers!

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Steve Kraus
Film God

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
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Is the name of that company, essentially, "Projection" ?

Interesting...follow the news link to the "Carmen" premiere and the artwork indicates the film has a Dolby Surround track using Pro Logic II.

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Brian Guckian
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From: Dublin, Ireland
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Not sure about the name Steve; sounds logical, but could the "son" refer to "sound"? I'll have to brush up on my Spanish!

Re. "Pro Logic II" for "Carmen", I would be 99% sure that's the wrong logo on the quad. I worked for a distributor once where a graphic designer (contracted by somebody else) simply refused to use the logos that came from Dolby as part of the Licence Agreement, and just scanned in a domestic version lifted off a VHS cover or what have you! Happens much more often than you'd think.

Maybe "Pro Logic II" sounds sexier than "Dolby Digital in Selected Theatres"!

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Steven H. Krams
Film Handler

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From: Miami, FL, USA
Registered: Oct 2002


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If you can find one the Ernemann #12P is quite a nice machine. It will project 16 & 35mm Images. It is robust, compact but very heavy.

ICE imports the Westar 105X 35mm Portable systems. These have evolved from Russian and & East German predescessors over the years. We have been dealing with this machine since 1978. At first they were crude and perfomance was poor. Over the years they have improved. We do some of our own Modfications including Timing Belt Drive, Timing Pulleys,belts and Ball Bearings. It is compact and performs reasonably well. It comes with Stereo Analog Reader, Dual sound and Picture changeover, 1000W Xenon Lamphouse, Power supply, and the usual assortment of options. It is likely the least expensive portable produced anywhere these days.

Good Luck!

Steven Krams
International Cinema Equipment
a division of Magna-Tech

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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I have several of the erneman 12 heads in rentals and they work very well

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William Hooper
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From: Mobile, AL USA
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Scott's recommedation of a 5-point base to transport with full-size machines is a good one. I've thought about taking a show on the road, & have stuck at the pedestal. What other solutions for pedestals "portable" use with full-size projectors have folks used?

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Philippe Laude
Film Handler

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From: Longueville, Belgium
Registered: Jul 99


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Here is another nice italian portable projector
http://www.cinemec.it/PX500.htm

Fumeo also makes (made?) neat 35mm portable projectors, but this seems to be almost unknown.

Philippe Laude

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Neil Chue Hong
Film Handler

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From: Edinburgh, Scotland, UK
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The Veronese range of portable machines are very nice, the only two problems on the one I've used is that the front stabilising foot is very easy to knock off when setting up, and they are difficult to start in humid conditions (belts slip).

The latter is only really relevent if you're taking it out and about a lot - I've only seen this problem happen when doing outdoor screenings. Everything can be fitted into three manageable flightcases.

I've also used Chinese made Spektras (sp?) which did the job and were sturdy enough.

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