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Author Topic: Do you remove the attached trailer? Gary Crawford Expert Film Handler Posts: 200 From: Neptune NJ USA Registered: Nov 2003 posted 05-19-2004 12:09 PM                     We always take off attached trailers as we never seem to run those movies later. We run an "Our Next" trailer always, and occasionally a "Coming Soon" but we never run more than two trailers. We are second-run and we always pull daters out of the trailers. Silly, and confusing, to run something that says "Coming April 10th" when we're running the trailer in May.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-19-2004 12:10 PM                     quote: Frank Angel where theatres play all kinds of trailer for titles that may never play in their house? So what happens if we decide not to run a trailer for a movie, because we are not getting it, but a last minute decision sends the print our way, now we have a movie that we have not advertised for, and attendance will be down. That's why I run all different kinds of trailers.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-19-2004 01:35 PM                        We cut off the attached and put the DTS logo after it, with the lites-down cue just ahead of the DTS. Personally I liked it better when the rating was at the END of the trailer. (I'm sure dating myself here!) If the movie appealed to the kids in the crowd, they would just be anxiously waiting and you could just feel the excitement when it turned out to be rated PG or G (or GP).  |  IP: Logged Todd Cornwall Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Madison, WI Registered: Feb 2004 posted 05-19-2004 07:05 PM                     Thanks for all your input. I was just curious if other theaters were doing things the same way we were. I was never sure who made up the order of trailers/sound bytes etc..but it seems like a monkey see monkey do thing. Anyway, thanks again.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan M. Crist Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 531 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-19-2004 07:26 PM                     What is an attached trailer? I am a second run house and have never seen one. Every print we get has them removed. ------------------------------------------------------------ Where you stand on an issue depends upon where you sit!  |  IP: Logged Todd Cornwall Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Madison, WI Registered: Feb 2004 posted 05-19-2004 07:44 PM                     I guess that answers my question too  |  IP: Logged Roy Martinez Film Handler Posts: 8 From: Miami, FL, USA Registered: Apr 2004 posted 05-22-2004 02:15 AM                        An attached trailer is a trailer that has been added to the beginning of the first reel of a movie.The trailer is almost always (except for Lucas films ) specific to the company that releases the film its attached to. Oh yea, let us not forget the surprise chasers (I hate those)!  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 05-22-2004 07:27 AM                        In most cases, the attached trailer is printed as part of the printing negative for reel 1, so there is no splice in the print. But a trailer can also be attached in "positive assembly" or at the exchange, which would entail a print splice where it was attached.  |  IP: Logged Todd Cornwall Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Madison, WI Registered: Feb 2004 posted 05-22-2004 03:56 PM                     I haven't put a movie together for a month or so, so I don't remember, but is there a marked place to cut the trailer? Or is it more guess work. Before anyone says it, YES I saw the "cutting trailers properly" in the tip section, but I didn't know if that also pertains to trailers attached to films as well.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-22-2004 04:59 PM                        It depends on the film. Usually there is an obvious negative splice, although I've seen some that aren't on the framelines. The important thing is to not cut into the soundtrack for the start of the feature.  |  IP: Logged Peter Castle Expert Film Handler Posts: 220 From: Wollongong University, NSW ,Australia Registered: Oct 2003 posted 05-23-2004 07:48 AM                     Normally if there is an attached trailer, I'll see if there's any chance we'd show it before I decide to leave it on or not. I will place the format tag before the attachec trailer and our regular trailers before that. Last week we had a screening of "50 First Dates" and decided that I'd leave on the attached trailer of "13 Going on 30". (OK we might not show it but the audience seemed to like it.) The previous cinema must have done it differently as the splice between attached trailer and feature was half-a-frame out. Yes, I know I should have double checked, but when making up a film for a one-off screening, we've got to sometimes assume the sensibility of other cinemas. Oh well.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-23-2004 10:51 AM                     I thought this thread was going to be about whether people re-attach the atttached trailer when shipping the print back. We don't. That is, if we ever get a print with the attatched trailer still on. We're sub-run, so by the time we get the prints, the attatched trailer's film has already played or is playing at our location. So it comes off. Although occasionally, we wll get a Reel 1 that's full all the way to the edge because the nice theater before us decided to include THEIR trailer pack! Thanks for the policy trailer, Carmike! When I worked first-run, we'd always cut the attatched trailer to insert the policy between it and the feature. This was irritating when people who didn't know how to cut film did it. You'd either get the sound for the studio logo at the end of the last trailer, or vice-versa. BAD! And Yeah, the green band saga has been sequeled and spun-off and beaten to death. We leave them on. I like them. Because: 1. It gives the presentation a "theatrical" feel instead of the rushed, in-your-face, no-pause-between-the-ads TV feeling. Its bad when people combine "Highway Men" and "The Passion" in their heads as one movie just because they saw Jim Cavizel in them both. 2. It separates the trailers. Most trailers these days borrow each other's soundtracks, making it hard to tell if it's still the same one you've been watching. Also, it allows for that 7-10 seconds of silence to hear people's reaction to them or those people who HAVE to make a comment about it. Funny. 3. Chopping into the sound. I've been at an AMC where the soundtracks to two trailers litterally went right into one another like a reel. No pause, no skip, no nothing. It almost seemed like a combo trailer, except it happened often. Besides, most green bands have been reprinted recently to add the FilmRatings website or some other teh ghey ratings reason. So quality shouldn't be an issue as long as they're clean. IMHO, theaters should play 2 trailers, an cheezy retro ad for the concession or "no smoking in this theater" and then two more. Would ease the tension a bit. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-24-2004 11:44 AM                        I just ran SILENT RUNNING (Univ) -- the Blue Band rating was printed BEFORE film. Stupid, stupid. Stupid because 1) it is NEGATIVE showmanship. Curtains should open at the start of the feature, not on some MPAA ad. And stupid 2) because unless all the patrons have had lobotomies, they already know the rating of the film that they are about to see. If they haven't seen the rating in every ad and on all the 1-sheets or next to the title in the box office where they just paid for their ticket, what's the point of putting in front of the feature opening? Does the MPAA think people are going to jump up and say, "Oh dear, I can't watch this picture....it's rated R, and run out"? SILENT RUNNING, btw, is rated G, so it's not even a matter of making sure the audence is aware of a more severe restrictive rating....it is G; ANYONE can see it. Oh yeah, to add insult to injury or to add icing on a pile-o-sh*t, it also was ANAMORPHIC --on a flat picture. How stupid is THAT?! Off it came and spliced AFTER the film, between the end of the credits and the leader.....where it's guaranteed that no one will see the ugly thing.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-24-2004 12:09 PM                        Frank--did you get the archive print of Silent Running that I ran back in January? At the time, it was new/uncut and basically mint. I hope that you didn't make physical cuts in it (unless it has been trashed since then).  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-24-2004 04:10 PM                        hmm, don't remember if that was the case when i saw it. but, why not just leave it on and open the douser & curtains right after? carl  |  IP: Logged

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