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Michael Schaffer
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Boardwalk Hotel?"

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 - posted 07-25-2004 10:31 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am donating a handful of question marks for Kyle.
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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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quote: Bobby Henderson
It is certainly a lot easier than correctly threading a print.
It might be harder to [sex] up, but it's actually more time consuming.

quote: Gordon McLeod
networked XD10's and it isn't a problem either
Hmmm... does anybody have a 6D and an XD10 to donate for a good cause?

quote: Kyle Watkins
How long does the DTS drives usally last and the LED of dolby readers. And what is the cost difference between them.
Lifespan and cost not worth considering at less than 15 cents a day for either.

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Kyle Watkins
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I though every one was a mind reader and new what i was thinking. [Razz] What i was refering too was the cost of upgrade to buy new Drives and buying a new LED. Im sure it differs form one dealer to another.
The theater im at now has 14 DTS units, and 2 Dolby digtal. Not sure when the building open someware 3-5 years old now. I had to do 3 upgrades this week on DTS drives. If life span is say 3-5 years and lets just say (not sure thogh) if the LED last 3-5 years. In the long run the cost can add up. That if any one looks at the cost in the long run.

Kyle

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Brad Miller
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An led for SRD is far cheaper than a set of replacement drives for DTS. Plus remember, DTS leds in their reader die too.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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You're paying way too much for replacement drives if there's a comparable difference in price over their lifetime.

Some places sell SCSI CD-ROM drives for as little as $15.

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Brad Miller
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Someone needs to let DTS know that then.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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I'm sure they already know they're making a nice bit of coin on spares. It's not like disc drives are their only overpriced off the shelf part.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Michael, that's twice in one thread you had me rolling with laughter. [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [Big Grin]

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Jack Ondracek
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quote: Michael Schaffer
Let's go back to Vitaphone.
Nahhhhh.... "Mirrophonic"!!

Hmmmmmmm..... Best projector, best lamp, best automation, best sound system... biggest (?) ummm.. screen...

Geez... it's sure easy to get you guys riled up around here! [Big Grin] [beer] [Razz]

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Per Hauberg
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What is the price of a Vitaphone pick-up needle ? [Big Grin]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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I heard DTS will sell you one at cost! [Big Grin]

See if they'll throw in some of their new snipes that are coming out last summer. [Roll Eyes]

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Richard Fowler
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Vitaphone disk playback would become "unacceptable" after about 40 playbacks with the skip resistant several pound weight pick up head. Based on observation of clients and usage are getting 4 - 6 years on the DTS drives, 5 - 6 years on the DTS reader, 11/2 to 4 years on the Dolby type LED.....we can also talk about the Sony Led array ( forest ) in the old SDDS penthouse [Roll Eyes]

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Gordon McLeod
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Well considering the laser playback unit over in film yak vitaphone should last forever [Smile]

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Thomas Procyk
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I used to be pro-DTS all the way, but have since changed to mixed feelings between DTS and SRD for various reasons.

I used to like DTS better because it never dropped out. But that was before I learned of all the little adjustments on a Simplex that would rub off the SRD if not adjusted correctly. The Simplex Millenium circa 1998 without the intermittent shoe modification was notoriuous for this.

My main gripe with DTS right now are those STUPID DVD CASES that they ship the discs in!! [Mad] They are ALWAYS smashed to bits in the can, sometimes with the discs out of them. Did anyone give them feedback on these? Why are they still using them? In this case, the discs are so damaged that DTS drops out.

As for SRD, if you will be running a lot of arthouse prints or international films, SRD is pretty much the standard digital format. On the used prints we've been getting recently, the SRD track looks fine visually most of the time, so I'd assume it would play fine. OTOH, we've gotten many instances where we didn't get discs for DTS, or they were damaged, or the wrong ones.

So it's really a "crap shoot" if you're second run, where there's a tossup between getting the discs and not having the SRD track damaged. But for a first-run or arthouse theater, I would say SRD is your best bet.

If DTS would ship their discs in something the size of an actual reel, (Reel 0?) and the people in charge would fine the theater as if the print was missing a reel, maybe more discs would get shipped back.

It seems like Dolby Digital is the format that will "prevail" in the end in some form or another.

=TMP=

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Antonio Marcheselli
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Gordon,

Can be XD10s networked yet?

Bye
A

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