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Ever Gonzalez
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From: San Diego, CA
Registered: Oct 2004


 - posted 12-06-2004 10:17 PM      Profile for Ever Gonzalez   Email Ever Gonzalez   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't know... my projectionist received the trailer, attached it to some leader and let all the managers know we had the Star Wars trailer. It wasn't labeled Star Wars. At the other theatre we had the three trailer rings built for Incredibles and they contained Star Wars too. Those weren't labled Star Wars either. Out of my experience I learned to be suspicious of things that come from FOX. They are basically the only ones that do the really odd stuff. Missing a FOX trailer and it happens to be something as important as Star Warz? AND IT IS ADVERTISED? Check out the FOX trailer that came with the cans. I am probably not the only one, but I am alwayz waiting for the most unexpected pointless stuff.

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Dean Kollet
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 - posted 12-06-2004 10:24 PM      Profile for Dean Kollet   Email Dean Kollet   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mike Blakesley
No, "laughing" does not occur in the Lucas universe. It was done for "security" reasons, plain and simple. It's just another stupid antipiracy thing that is useless and doesn't have any meaning except to make the people in high places feel like they're doing something.
possibly to prove to their insurance companies they are trying....because I'm sure they still claim they "lost" money

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Jason Gazaille
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 - posted 12-06-2004 11:26 PM      Profile for Jason Gazaille   Email Jason Gazaille   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had no problem figuring out that the Star Wars trailers were labeled Sand Dogs because it said so on the FoxExhibitor website I use to check for new materials to order for our theatre anyway. Plus, when we got our banner and one sheets, they were labeled with a number. I think this is merely to prevent shipping theft and has nothing to do with anti-piracy. They wanted to make sure the theatres had the material to show, since it was advertised. I think that theatres owe it to their customers to check since, as someone pointed out, most customers wanted to see it. What I don't get, is why they didn't continue to label them in that fashion from then on, since they sent me a package two weeks later with the actual title. Maybe they don't trust the Technicolor employees for some reason. I'm not saying I agree with it at all, I'm just giving what I think may be a studio's perspective. I think theft more than piracy is the reason behind the name change. In the past, they wanted to account for every single Star Wars trailer that went out. I can deal with a title change a little better.

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System Notices
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It has been 2263 days since the last post.


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Dominic Espinosa
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 - posted 02-17-2011 02:23 PM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There were very nearly confused phone calls this morning when digital prints of CEDAR RAPIDS showed up with ups stickers declaring them to be BIG MOMMA.
I was certainly discouraged from piracy at that point. I mean, nobody is going to watch that piece...

Just a thought, fox. Maybe you don't code-name current films with the names of other current films...

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 02-17-2011 05:45 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So why don't they just cut out putting names on the cans all together and use numbers?

Oh? "Star Wars?" - That's marked 24389247.
"Indiana Jones?" - 29829485. "Indiana Jones 4?" - 294387029837.

That way everybody is equally confused and piracy will surely be prevented!

See, what a fart smeller... smart feller I am? [Big Grin]

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 02-17-2011 09:26 PM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Or better yet, just deliver cans with nothing on them at all. Call it pot luck theater.

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Dan Biegner
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 - posted 02-21-2011 03:09 PM      Profile for Dan Biegner   Email Dan Biegner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anyone know why they even do that in the first place? It's certainly annoying, but I'm curious to know what their b.s. reason for doing so is.

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 02-21-2011 09:28 PM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Because of course LOTS of people would want to steal LORD OF THE RINGS: FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING, but if they print CHANGING SEASONS on all of the cans instead, that would foil untold legions of print thieves. Especially if they print it on the heads and tails too. No one would EVER be smart enough to figure out that the 5000 nine reel CHANGING SEASONS prints that are floating around on the days leading up to the LORD OF THE RINGS release are actually the missing LORD OF THE RINGS prints. No one would EVER figure THAT out. Thieves are too stupid, you see.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 02-22-2011 02:04 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark you forgot to mention the "New Line Cinema" printed on the box labels for Changing Seasons.

I used to go to the film depot and pick prints up every week. We would all laugh about how pathetic the attempts with fake naming were because it was THAT OBVIOUS. Its not stopping anything.

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Dominic Espinosa
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 - posted 02-22-2011 02:11 AM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's kind of amusing that they code-name the cans when the only people with an interest in prints are industry "insiders" who are privy too it anyway and would likely not bother.
...And the rest of the world thinks we play DVD's.

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Mark J. Marshall
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 - posted 02-22-2011 05:40 AM      Profile for Mark J. Marshall     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah yes, thanks Brad. I also forgot to mention the coincidence of all of the LORD OF THE RINGS documentation that comes included IN THE CANS of CHANGING SEASONS. This of course includes a letter from Peter Jackson congratulating you on playing LORD OF THE RINGS.

And let us not forget the trailers for "SAND DOG" which were actually the missing STAR WARS III trailers which started this whole thread. Again - this was a TRAILER. A trailer which everyone and their brother was expecting to get. And everyone in fact did get it. It just didn't say STAR WARS on it. It said SAND DOG instead. Since STAR WARS was such an event, everyone knew that the next trailer would be on a particular movie. All of the Star Wars geeks went to see that movie on opening day just to see the trailer, and a good number of them were disappointed because the trailer wasn't where it was supposed to be because the projectionists thought they didn't receive the trailer. People were PISSED! LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of people were pissed that day.

So it's safe to say that whoever the boob is who thought fake names was a good idea actually CAUSED exactly what he thought he was preventing that day... missing film. And yet they still do it.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 03-02-2011 02:11 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And it's getting worse as they're doing it now on FILE NAMES (!!!) of digital files...not the label on the drive, mind you. THAT says the real name, but on the actual file name that is ingested and sits in the server.

Follow the stupid story here.

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Jonathan Seaman
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 - posted 03-06-2011 03:25 PM      Profile for Jonathan Seaman   Email Jonathan Seaman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It is not much better here in the UK. We are getting prints all the time with 'code names.' The best thing about this is the fact that if anyone did intercept the prints, all they would need to do is open the case the cans are in and look at the label on the cans as they have the correct title of the film printed on them anyway.

What is the point? I used to like the guessing game but now it gets boring as it's so bloody easy.

Anyway enough of my rantings.

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Chris Slycord
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 - posted 03-07-2011 12:47 PM      Profile for Chris Slycord   Email Chris Slycord   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Jonathan Seaman
The best thing about this is the fact that if anyone did intercept the prints, all they would need to do is open the case the cans are in and look at the label on the cans as they have the correct title of the film printed on them anyway.
Saw IV was labelled "Angel Fish" on the reels themselves (and the box it came it).

Saw V had a similar fake name on the print itself, but the box said it was Saw V.

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