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Author Topic: Common Sense Projectioning Peter Mork Expert Film Handler Posts: 181 From: Newton, MA, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 05-08-2005 04:07 PM                     Care to swap surnames? [ 05-08-2005, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Peter Mork ]  |  IP: Logged Dave Callaghan Film Handler Posts: 60 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-09-2005 02:57 AM                     quote: Scott Norwood lab splices (which should be removed if mid-frame quote: Dominic Espinosa lab splices in mid-frame are removed As a projectionist, I used to agree that the presentation was better for the removal of ultrasonic splices that are in the projected picture. I have since discovered that others in the industry - e.g. the distributors - have another perspective. Removing the splice may fix the picture but it also causes a loss of a small portion of the sound track. With digital systems, the bad splice isn't audible. Fixing the splice fixes one problem but creates a new problem. I would say both sides have a point. For myself, I have reluctantly decided that messing with an intact digital soundtrack with absolutely no problem doesn't really make sense. I just wish the labs could find a way to make their splices on the frame line. Pre digital, an ultrasonic splice would usually leave some of the sound track clear, which was audible. In the analog only days, removing these splices was for the best because picture and sound were both compromised.  |  IP: Logged Kris Dirix Film Handler Posts: 54 From: Antwerp / Belguim Registered: Feb 2005 posted 05-09-2005 03:31 AM                      |  IP: Logged Daniel Burns Film Handler Posts: 52 From: dallas, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-17-2005 08:24 AM                     Your biggest problem is the staff who don't do any preventive maintenance. You could retrain them and they still won't do it. It's usually easier to train someone to do it right, that has never worked in booth. If they want to sit downstairs go to one of their projectors and cause a small problem, do this a couple times and they'll start having shifts in concession. I like projectionists that are downstairs only when coming to and leaving work. At night there's nothing else to do but clean and shut down, if nothing else (depending on your equipment) make sure you open the film gate, and the lateral guide rollers at the end of the night. Keep daily booth logs for relaying messages and even signing off on various daily/weekly/monthly maintenance tasks. Feel free to go over your managers head, to their superiors, it works. If it doesn't it's pretty easy to to "inadvertently" do something to really drive your point across. You've gotta show managers that they don't run the show anywhere but downstairs, the GM is the only one worth befriending so you can get those extra needed supplies for booth. Don't allow anyone including managers that aren't qualified to work in projection to be in projection, as much as possible. I'm not usually like by the management teams, and it's because they say: the way I talk to them is like they're children, in front of other staff or in front of their bosses, and as much as they'd like to get rid of me, the GM see's a really well ran booth and they don't usually want to give that up. So take charge even if your not, and show 'em how much better you can actually have your booth run. With that being said here's to all Operation Managers that have the title, but no real leadership skills I think that's a lot of 'em if I'm not mistaken.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-17-2005 09:14 AM                        Do _not_ leave gates open overnight if your projector is a Simplex or Century or any other type that uses springs to keep the gate closed. Doing so will wear out the springs faster than if you leave the gates closed. I agree that sound rollers on Simplex/RCA soundheads should be left open when not running film. (Though, interestingly, there is some soundhead...RCA-1040, I think...that won't let you close the door unless the roller is closed.)  |  IP: Logged Daniel Burns Film Handler Posts: 52 From: dallas, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-18-2005 01:33 AM                     You know I never knew that, I was always told that it would keep un-needed pressure on the tension straps while closed. But hey you learn something new everyday.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-18-2005 02:04 AM                     Daniel, you give up too easily! Those trap springs in the Century won't wear out any time soon. The film bands, on the other hand, wear out quickly. For that reason, I would prefer to leave those traps open. I should also add that I have never replaced one of those springs, nor do I know anyone else who has.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Burns Film Handler Posts: 52 From: dallas, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-18-2005 02:40 AM                     Well I thought I remembered seeing something about that in the manual, but I looked through it and didn't see anything, so maybe I imagined it. Woohoo someone agreed with me!  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 05-18-2005 02:41 AM                     Don't worry about the spring in the single-lens style Century. The spring broke in one of mine almost a year ago. You don't need it. Once you rotate the knob closed by hand, it locks into place. No way the gate could pop open. You have to push it in and rotate the knob to open it. I think the spring was put there only for lazy people who get a kick out of slamming their fist into it and having it snap closed.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-18-2005 04:08 AM                     I'm firmly with Scott on this one. Leave everything alone after a show finishes (except for a Simplex/RCA type of soundhead). I don't know why Manny's gate bands wear out so fast, but I have NEVER had to replace gate bands that were properly cared for in the first place. Those bands should perform better and better as the years go by. The only bands that I have seen that needed replacing were directly due to stupid people doing stupid things to them like trying to scrape off crusted on emulsion deposite with a blade or screwdriver that damage the bands.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-18-2005 10:49 AM                     Yet again, we have a fine illustration of the term "your mileage may vary."  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-18-2005 11:39 AM                     Yeah, that mileage stuff happens. By the way Manny, I don't mean to sound like an insensitive prick, but what was the reasoning for you to change out gate bands? What happened to them? Did they develop a crease, a discoloration, get abrasive, snap in half??? And what make of projector? I'm sure you had a valid reason, I'm just curious what it was.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-18-2005 11:56 AM                     Now that I'm really thinking about it, the bands on the original trap did not go bad. The tension band replacements happened with the newer Kelmar traps that were part of a lens turret upgrade. The snap tended to happen at the screw hole, although I seem to recall one that somehow broke midway. After I left the company and then went back about a year later, the trap bands needed to be replaced because of long-term encrusted dirt deposits. The projectors had fallen into various stages of disrepair.  |  IP: Logged Jason Greek Film Handler Posts: 21 From: Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: May 2005 posted 06-02-2005 10:13 AM                     [ 06-02-2005, 04:47 PM: Message edited by: Jason Greek ]  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-02-2005 12:29 PM                        We have a 1980-vintage Simplex projector and have had to replace the gate bands one time. One of them just broke at the end where the screw attaches it, just ahead of the hole. To this day, that's the only "parts" that projector head has needed outside of regular maintenance. (The machine has a relatively easy life though...just one or two shows a day.)  |  IP: Logged

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