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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 12-20-2005 06:45 AM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Umm ... you're showing a trailer for a movie that's already open.

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 12-20-2005 07:49 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard -- I guess you've never dealt with an art-house situation where bookings change frequently and where the policy (rightly, I believe) is to only show trailers for films which are booked and where the trailers should be shown in reverse release-date order (i.e. the trailer for the next film to open shows last). There's no other way to manage trailer changes in that sort of environment.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 12-20-2005 07:51 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard, let's say you are going to remove the 3rd trailer. You remove the leader and the first two trailers as one loop of film and set aside. You then remove the 3rd trailer and discard. If there is another trailer to go in it's place, you can lay the loop of film on an empty deck and load up the replacement trailer, then lay the loop back in the center and splice.

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John Walsh
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 - posted 12-20-2005 08:54 AM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I tried to keep my own opinion neutral when I posted that picture. Myself, I don't like adding trailers this way, but I can't 'fault' it. I think Steve summed it up best when he noted; "...[with] fewer booth staff to help out, and the continued demand of many owners for more work in fewer work hours, solutions like this one are a necessity ..."

Trailers change every week, and even the order the ads are shown sometimes change. Trailers added like this can be inspected (for misframes or even being on backwards) right away on prints that remain for next week. It needs to be known *now* if they are right, because the operator is required to go home (or downstairs) as soon as possible, but can fix it next show if needed. No one will put in a large takeup ring because that takes planning, and there's no time to plan ahead. There's so little time devoted to the booth that the trailers are added immediately when they come in, whenever that is.

Anyway, I thought more people would disapprove, but it's turning out that most approve, however grudgingly.

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Wolff King Morrow
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 - posted 12-20-2005 10:40 AM      Profile for Wolff King Morrow   Author's Homepage   Email Wolff King Morrow   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Taking a trailer off the middle of a pack is actually quite easy. The gap it leaves behind allows plenty of room to splice the two sections back together. Naturally I put any new trailers at the beginning using a center-dropper.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 12-20-2005 11:28 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
At some theaters that had crazy people in charge of trailer programming, they would insist A trailer be removed from X feature and put on Z feature in spot #3, and B trailer be removed from Y feature and put on Z feature in spot #2, etc. What I would do is simply pull the trailers out of the center of the roll and carry them to the print it needed to go on and lay them into the pack doing multiple center drops on top of each other. Always worked like a charm and NEVER a hint of film damage. The Christie platters handle multiple drops at the same time magnificently and in 20 years of handling trailers in this manner, I have never had anything go wrong.

I couldn't do that when I was working with other platters such as Strong and SPECO that did not have the raised brain. (Examples of platters with a "raised brain" for lack of a better term would be the Christie, Neumade and MiT). They aren't too happy with the film not laying on the deck, so whenever a larger loop of film would be put into the pack, I would install it with an "S" twist to it. The "S" twist created a bulge toward the brain, but so long as the threading was smooth and relatively slow, actual payout was fine.

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Olivia Coleman
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 - posted 12-20-2005 10:10 PM      Profile for Olivia Coleman   Author's Homepage   Email Olivia Coleman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We will also be forced to do this when a trailer arrives the next day and we don't know when... I do prefer using cores. We use the trailer cores to mark trailers. We have some taped together to make larger gaps when we add trailers. Makes it very easy and no film on top on film! [Smile]

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Mathew Molloy
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 - posted 12-20-2005 10:53 PM      Profile for Mathew Molloy   Email Mathew Molloy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
On the subject of large center rings: The quick trick I was taught to make a home-made large center ring was to wrap some tape around the center ring sticky-side out. Place 2" cores side-by-side around the ring and then tape those cores together.

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Mike Baer
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 - posted 12-21-2005 04:12 AM      Profile for Mike Baer   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Baer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Normally when i change trailers,there is an intermission after the preshow,so i have time to tear the splice between preshow and feature.Then i take a greater ring and resume the show,taking up the feature onto the greater ring.Then i have to change the trailers and after the show put it back in before the feature.
But sometimes,when there is only the first trailer to change it would be a waste of time to do as described.
Then i take the first trailer (with leader) out and put a new trailer (with a new leader) in.When the new trailer is shorter,then it will be no problem to fit,otherwise it will overlap like in the picture.

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