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Author Topic: Super Simplex / RCA 1040 / Peerless Magnarc Restoration Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-25-2006 04:25 AM                     LOL!  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-25-2006 01:12 PM                        The AW-3 is the ONLY place in this industry where the FACTORY suggests & sells Lubriplate. (I don't think we can blame this on Bevan!) Louis [ 01-25-2006, 03:06 PM: Message edited by: Louis Bornwasser ]  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-25-2006 02:25 PM                     "Oil them once a day and they last for ever!" I agree, like I said there's no reason a machine that lasts 30 years running c/o can't manage a platter show. You must have a better grade of "booth usher" than we get up here. I hate to think what might happen if they got an oilcan... for these folk, oil is what goes in the kettle before the popcorn.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-25-2006 03:08 PM                        Actually had multiple Century intermittent failures because the theatre owner wouldn't buy projector oil. Booth usher put popcorn oil in the projector. Louis  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-25-2006 06:27 PM                     ..really makes one wonder what really goes on up in these owners minds when operating a threatre business and not give a hoot about certain things..just mind-boggling. Popcorn oil in the assemblies....'bout as bad as adding water in the oil fill of a car. Ultimate stupidity.  |  IP: Logged John Eickhof Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 588 From: Wendell, ID USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-26-2006 05:14 PM                        Of course there was the disgruntled employee of a customer of mine in California years ago that decided to get back at the owner by urinating in the Century intermittents! ( 4 of them!) They ran for about a year before they either galded or the pins wore out! It was a nasty smell when I opened the cases!! And quite rusty too!! He always figured he knew who did it but was never able to prove it! Of course DNA testing was non existant too..I figure they ran so long untill the acidic nature of the urine finally got rid of the oil coating on the parts! They all went down within two months!!  |  IP: Logged John Eickhof Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 588 From: Wendell, ID USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-26-2006 05:14 PM                        Of course there was the disgruntled employee of a customer of mine in California years ago that decided to get back at the owner by urinating in the Century intermittents! ( 4 of them!) They ran for about a year before they either galded or the pins wore out! It was a nasty smell when I opened the cases!! And quite rusty too!! He always figured he knew who did it but was never able to prove it! Of course DNA testing was non existant too..I figure they ran so long untill the acidic nature of the urine finally got rid of the oil coating on the parts! They all went down within two months!!  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-27-2006 12:02 PM                        John; amplifying your comment on urine. An ex-projectionist I know decided that he could not actually put urine into the projector when he left. He put it into the oil can instead. That way, he felt satisfied that the unfair owner was actually putting the urine in himself. Louis  |  IP: Logged Tim Hull Film Handler Posts: 11 From: Chatsworth, California, USA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 03-29-2006 07:26 PM                        UPDATE - Well, the base has been powder coated and picture and soundhead are being rebuilt. Also, the lamphouse is being powder coated with a dull matte black wrinkle finish. All parts have been chrome plated. I was told that if I ever wanted to have the nickle finish, I could just strip off the chrome plate. I prefer the chrome because I think it has more visual impact and it doesn't tarnish like nickle. I'm glad I went with the powder coat! It is tough as nails! Tim  |  IP: Logged Paul Trimboli Master Film Handler Posts: 274 From: Perth Western Australia Registered: Dec 2002 posted 03-30-2006 04:00 AM                     That looks really nice Tim! Did you have much trouble getting the lamphouse table off? Do the gears on that Simplex rotate on the shafts? The reason I ask is because there is an oil pot on the intermediate gear, I have never seen that before. Your main page of your website looks great, like the look of the link to the restoration, great picture of a front shutter standard on a WE soundhead!  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-30-2006 04:41 AM                     You open up the back compartment door of that Super and you'll see oil ports all over inside..and these had to be oiled on a daily basis. Actually, the front of the main frame above the motor has small drain holes for the oil, which travels to the bottom of the frame to drain out (there should be a drain lip plate that is between the head and the soundhead to help drain the used oil into a collective device as it leaves the front of the machine..) That big intermediate gear with the oil cup on the outside of that stationary shaft, has an smaller gear attached on the other end of the intermediate gear's shaft to run the mechanism inside. The oil cup is on the end of that stationary shaft (both of them) since the gears that are associated with those shafts just rotate around, and the shafts have minute holes for the oil to lubricate the bronze sleevings of the gears..  |  IP: Logged Paul Trimboli Master Film Handler Posts: 274 From: Perth Western Australia Registered: Dec 2002 posted 03-30-2006 04:54 AM                     Were the stationary shafts a standard thing on the Supers? I have a few Simplex Standards, one I have just restored so am very familar with the machines. Super Simplexs are not something I have come across in Western Australia, just lots of Standards. I really like these machines, I have one from 1923 with no slop in the bearings! What a great peice of engineering. One thing I always thought was that aren't they a bit over engineered for silent use or did the designers design them for expansion, maybe they knew sound would be something that was going to come out?  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 03-30-2006 09:24 AM                        All of these date well before sound. My understanding is that the Singer Sewing machine guy was instrumental in the engineering of these machines. Singer & Simplex were really well built for their era; almost indestructable. This is the hand-crank era. Motors came later. Louis  |  IP: Logged Tim Hull Film Handler Posts: 11 From: Chatsworth, California, USA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 03-30-2006 04:14 PM                        Thanks Paul! Yeah, it has been a lot of work, but the projectors are so well made that just a simple coat of new paint makes them look like they are brand new. I have been collecting and working on these for almost 2 years. I have always been amazed by the quality of the engineering. I'm not used to seeing things so well built. Although, I can see how it doesn't make much business sense when you sell an item that lasts forever! I specially like the style of the Peerless lamphouse, as it really dates the projector to the 1930's. The lamphouse table was no problem to remove. There were just a few large bolts. Yes, the oil pot on the gear is rather strange. Actually, the gear door that belongs there does not fit because of it. This projector head was rebuilt by Al Moffa, who spent a great deal of his life rebuilding these. Thanks for the compliment on the website start. It has been tough to find the time to work on it between working 3 jobs and restoring my Super... Hey, since you are into the Standard, this will probably break your heart like it did mine... http://cgi.ebay.com/SIMPLEX-35MM-MOVIE-PROJECTORS-AND-EQUIPMENT-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ7604649762QQcategoryZ4791QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Well, I'm going to be documenting the rebuild on the projector head and soundhead next on the website. The Super projector (a '37) has already been torn down to the frame and is being powder coated now. I will post a pic of all the Super heads that I have... you were right about having spares! -Tim  |  IP: Logged Paul Trimboli Master Film Handler Posts: 274 From: Perth Western Australia Registered: Dec 2002 posted 03-31-2006 03:43 AM                     Tim have you thought how you are going to make the Simplex logo on the spool box doors gold again? I have been thinking of scanning them and getting them printed somehow so they can be transfered. The pedestal also should have a Simplex logo if you look at the one that Mark posted a picture of. My rca has no door glass so I copied a friends, put it into photoshop to make a good black and white image. I took it to a print and etch place and for $20 they sandblasted it on the glass, not as good as etching but MUCH cheaper for a one off thing.  |  IP: Logged

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