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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 04-23-2006 12:31 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I really doubt if the correct losses can be introduced into that conversion to make it perform as a true davis tight loop

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 04-23-2006 12:46 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually it does work fine but takes longer for the stabilizer to reach speed. It's still a tight loop no matter how you look at it. Eliminate the Silicon loaded damper roller and its not a tight loop any longer its then more an SH-1000.

Mark

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Steve Guttag
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 - posted 04-23-2006 05:36 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
IF one were to remake the sound drum to eliminate the recess where the inboard Lateral guide roller sits and then apply rubber drive tires to both lateral guide roller halves, it would work very well and eliminate the picture contact area.

Something that should be done to "Brad's" design is to have a stop screw such that the wrist of the assembly can't push the film down into the recess of the drum. Ever noticed that the Century LGRs have stop screws so they don't have contact with the drum?

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Ian Bailey
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 - posted 04-24-2006 02:39 AM      Profile for Ian Bailey   Email Ian Bailey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the picture Dan.
So the only thing holding the film against the sound drum is the metal inside edge of the Lateral guide roller.Am I right in saying that the film is only being held on one side?...as far as I know the same point on the outside edge of the lateral guide roller does not come in contact with the sound drum.
To me it just doesn't look like there is enough holding the film against the sound drum to stop the film tracking laterally which would effect the sound quality.Also if the projector is left running with no film and the lateral guide roller engaged then you would have metal to metal contact which couldn't be good.
Narrow rubber tyres that line up with the outside edges of the print would be the go.
Ian

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Ian Bailey
To me it just doesn't look like there is enough holding the film against the sound drum to stop the film tracking laterally
Granted, it does fool you on how it looks, but it really does work, and works pretty slick.

The trick is to have that film taught so the film doesn't have the chance of being weak in that area of the guide rollers - to where the stiffened edges DO hold up the guide rollers pretty well.

-Monte

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