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Topic: Can a 70mm 30fps run on a platter?
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Carl Martin
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From: Oakland, CA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-01-2006 03:24 AM
interesting to read gordon's remarks. i saw the show last night. a friend who presumably went to the same show as gordon did mentioned 2 film breaks during the auction scene, but said the sound kept going (i wonder how long). at my showing the changeovers were sticking a fair bit, sometimes remaining half-closed on the new reel, so i figured that's what was meant by "film break", but it sounds like another problem now.
there were several lines coming and going, and constant "jj" scratches. a few jump splices. the first 2 reels had an incessant clicking at the right, about 4 times per second. i didn't notice exactly when it ended, but perhaps that was a channel that got muted.
the california's screen isn't that big, and i can't say whether they had 5 screen channels or not, but the songs sounded great. dialog was weak. i don't think there was a surround channel but i was in the 4th row (there is a stage) so i could be wrong.
despite the problems, i had a great time. it was a 3 hour commute each way, though.
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Gordon Burke
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From: San Jose, CA
Registered: Sep 2005
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posted 06-01-2006 06:30 PM
Sorry to keep dragging this thread off the platter topic, but...
quote: Carl Martin mentioned 2 film breaks during the auction scene, but said the sound kept going (i wonder how long).
I saw the Sunday 2:00pm show.
The image went briefly distorted for a couple of frames, then dark and it seemed as if it took the projectionist half-a minute to stop the DP70 while, yes the sound kept going. At the second "break," film edge and perforations were seen before it went dark again. At 28.125ips, that would need to be a lot of film piling up ahead of the aperture, or spilling into the enclosed chasis. Could this have been something more like the gate opening up or the safety shutter tripping instead of a break?
Are "JJ" scratches from the 35mm rollers and parts in a Century JJ? 35mm roller marks are consistent with what I saw, but didn't want to mention.
I noticed 5 screen channels from the first row of the mezzanine. Oklahoma! seems to not have used the surround channels for sound and ambient effects as we are familiar with today. Rather reverb from the musical numbers and parts of the choral tracks are in the surrounds. The female chorus under Shirley Jones' vocals in "Out Of My Dreams" was clearly audible from the surrounds. This is in keeping with Mike Todd's vision of making the cinema experience of this film much like seeing it on broadway. Coincidentally keeping with this vision, the California does not allow food in the auditorium. I don't think they have popcorn at the food counter either.
The California's screen and speakers are not permanent on that stage. The surrounds are on temporary brackets with Speak-On connectors. Even so, comparing "LOA" and "Okie" 24-hours apart, this is a well engineered and modern auditorium. I understand the Standford Theatre Foundation spent a really big amount of money on it only to get screwed when the the Opera and Symphony were guaranteed almost unlimited use of the space.
It seems that we wouldn't be having this discussion if a propper restoration version of this film were made. The fact that it can show in this format in so few places really sucks since this is one of the most popular American musicals of all time.
Now, back to the platters...
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