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Author Topic: Studio Movie Grill Houston - Review Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-21-2006 01:58 AM                        hmmm, where have i seen that studio movie grill font before? so will this location be running delayed interlocks? i didn't see the accumulators in any pictures.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 06-21-2006 02:25 AM                     That's what is nice about the AW3 units - the return arm can act like an accumulator - especially when you use the arm as such and not for the purpose of winding the film back on the platter. You just lace the film through the traveller roller assembly differently where the film bypasses everything and heads on up to the other machine, or platter via the top tower rollers of the payout platter. ..but, the film travel that heads on down that long hallway to No.1 make me wonder on if there is an accumulator -either Kelmar or STRONG - in this travel...mounted on the wall somewhere.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-21-2006 03:55 AM                        oh, but i'm talking about those 20-minute delay interlocks as seen in this thread.  |  IP: Logged Jason Burroughs Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 654 From: Allen, TX Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-21-2006 10:24 AM                     Brad, If QSC and other manufactures would switch to a IEC-C14 recipticle on their equipment, you could then use a standard "computer" power cable, which you can get in varying legnths. I'd also think that the amp manufacturers should switch to using 208 Volt instead of 110, or at least provide the capability of using 208. The amplifiers would be much more efficient at the higher voltages, not to mention, it would cut down on the number of circuits that would need to be run. This isn't a sound rack, but still a pretty decently wired rack  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 06-21-2006 11:30 AM                     About 40% of our racks that we built in the past decade have been 208VAC and power strips all set up for IEC + internal sub-breakers + surge protection + backups on Processor / monitor / crossover QSC monitor / crossover system make it an easy wire layout due to the computer plug harnessing, this has been copied by other manufacturers. I prefer to use tie bars at the crossover / processor / monitor and run the speaker lines on the "high side" of the rack with the power receptacles. I hate feeds coming from the ceiling to the racks; we preferred wall to floor with sealtite. We found in many locations with top feed racks had damage from maintinance people moving the racks or "bumping" while cleaning floors. Long power cables are a pain to dress so we would either purchase ( 10 amp @208/15 amp@ 120VAC, not 2 -5 amp computer power cable ) short power cables from Interpower or plugs locally The use of high and low feed wireways is excellent which we have done with an occaisional addition of a wiretray to allow other "trades" to do runs without disturbing projection wireways. The CA 21 video status monitor at every location...very, very good idea. I love the Pennywise units and their capabilty is great for all things Brad plans to do. The Kinoton PK-60 how can you go wrong Back up on the platters, great. All and all it looks like Brad has pulled off a nice install  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-21-2006 12:14 PM                     quote: Richard Fowler I hate feeds coming from the ceiling to the racks; we preferred wall to floor with sealtite. Aha, I am exactly the opposite. I guess you've never tripped over some sealtite running along the ground and busted your head into something like a slide projector shelf, eh? All future installs of mine are going into the slab itself.  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 06-21-2006 12:55 PM                     Slab is better expecially if you have accurate blueprints and construction follow through....there is always rack risers and computer floor set ups  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-21-2006 01:53 PM                     Nice pix and all, Brad. I'm curious about the delay, too. One can certainly just cut off the plug and trim the cord to length and attach a new capcord. This sort of thing seems to be quite common in the telecom industry (esp. where installers put in twistlock plugs). Yeah, it's a pain. Have any dealers lobbied QSC on this? I see QSC has a 230V models, though. Has anyone checked with them to see if they run on 208V? You can also install a buck/boost transformer (perhaps it's something heftier if you want to have it ahead of the panelboard...). Also, the DCA 4-channel series, at least, does have IEC-320-C14 connectors... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 06-21-2006 02:00 PM                     They run fine on 208VAC.  |  IP: Logged Alex Grueneberg Expert Film Handler Posts: 125 From: Chicago, IL Registered: Aug 2004 posted 06-21-2006 02:54 PM                        The platter array is a work of art brad. Seriously.  |  IP: Logged Dan Chilton Expert Film Handler Posts: 191 From: Springfield, MO Registered: Mar 2004 posted 06-21-2006 04:00 PM                        Brad: did you (or the buyer) get a bulk rate on all those executive leather chairs? Is there any concern about people flipping over in them? And, finally, are the semi-circular tables behind the chairs bolted to the ground? This is a very cool set-up indeed!  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 06-21-2006 04:34 PM                     quote: Jason Burroughs This isn't a sound rack, but still a pretty decently wired rack Pretty, Yes. IMHO, the tails on the tie wraps should be trimmed; and closely so that they do not protrude and present a sharp edge that'll cut you. In my other life, equipment installers preferred to use lacing twine because they felt tie wraps could cut into cables if installed to tightly.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-21-2006 04:53 PM                     I don't own the theater, I just did the projection and sound for it. I don't know what they paid or where they came from, but when you buy that much quantity of anything, I'm sure they got a good deal on those chairs.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-21-2006 05:29 PM                     A proper tie-wrap gun will make for a good clean cut without over tensioning the cables. My personal favorite is the one made by Panduit. I've seen MANY MANY tie-wrap guns that truely suck despite their high price tags. I like conduit coming in the top. if you can get the conduit in the floor, that is nice too since it is much cleaner...get get them to cut it off low enough such that you don't loose the bottom spaces of the rack to conduit stubs (hopefully with bushings). One thing in all of my racks are service loops...that is, the cables can often go a great deal longer than where they actually land...this is to allow for changes that always seem to happen. My service loops are hidden and not actually loops (to avoid hum). A rack can be neat/clean as well as be servicable. As for troublshooting...my cables are generally color coded throughout. I also label all of the cables. Most of the time, the cable type will adequately define what it is doing...the color and label will finish the job. I'm not a fan of the short power cord though I definately can empathize with not wanting to wad up power cords. For some reason, power cords just are the worst part for me when it comes to racking. Brad would like Crown's amps...the CE and CL stuff come with 1-foot or so cords...only problem...they come with Crown amps. I guess I don't use many vertical power strips so I don't get the benefit of the short cords. However, if I did (in quantity), I would buy the short cords. Time is money and spending time to dress a stupid power cord sucks. I'll probably be the last guy but I'm not jumpping on the the VGA connector bandwagon. I only use them for video and that is begrudgingly (prefer BNC). I'll stick with conventional and proper connectors (Phoenix and XLR) and keep the high level/low levels separated. I can't dispute the tremendous time savings the VGA thing offers and it requires almost no intelligence to wire a rack up with them (and QSC offers them in 1-foot increments). With the snake cable I use, generally the hook up goes pretty darn fast (D-sub at one end and phoenix/XLR at the other and yes I make my own Dsubs (even the miserable HD15s). Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-21-2006 05:40 PM                     I love the idea of tying the Air Conditioning into the automation! Nice work! Mark (Live from Mike Blakesley's Auto Parts Store!)  |  IP: Logged

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