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Author Topic: TAIL UP Reels in Second Run Theatre Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 07-16-2006 04:28 AM                        I run platters, always have, but really I don't care. Heads out, tails out, it's all the same. Heads out, I run it straight to the platter, checking as I go. Tails out, I build it in reverse (6,5,4 and 3,2,1) on 2 6k reels, checking as I go. It's a hair faster that way because reel to reel is faster than reel to platter. And once I'm on the 6k reels, going to platter is fast because I don't have to anticipate the end of the reel to cut and splice, and since I already did all but the splice in the middle, it's a straight shot. Out MUT has nice pretty new rollers with easy spinning metal bearings, so I can go warp 5 Mr. Sulu. I may prefer Haeds out by a small margin, but it really doesn't matter to me as long as the orientation is consistant (H,H,H,etc. Or T,T,T, etc. I'll even take any mix of that as long as the Tails are together so I can splice them on one 6k'er) When we return them, I always wind them Heads out. I didn't consider a changeover setup till recently, and until I read the forums, didn't know they prefer Tails out. But by now, it's already second nature to make them Heads out, and considering I don't know if it'll go to a platter house or changeover, I have no way of helping them out by orienting it their preferred way. At either rate, the reels all leave my house, if I do them, all oriented the same way, heads out. BTW, has anyone ever noticed sometimes when you get a reel tails out from the lab, more often than not, the head is longer than normal, and there's alot of wasted, clear film in the middle (between the header markings before the first fame and the outter bit of head markings)?  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 07-16-2006 04:31 AM                  WTF is Daryl and his magical machine????  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 07-16-2006 12:04 PM                     quote: magic.exe?task=summarize&posts=all WAH!  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 07-16-2006 01:07 PM                        We wind (and inspect) at the bench on large reels, then rewind and load the platter. I don't have Goldberg Platter Reels (that might be fun), but who cares?... one more step. In any case, I can't see how this will ever change. The studios send out new prints in every configuration you could imagine, including (lately) mixing them up in the cans. Most theatres around here break their prints down on their makeup tables, so heads-up is how they leave the booth. Personally... I liked the Warner Bros plastic 6k reels!  |  IP: Logged Chad M Calpito Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Apr 2006 posted 07-16-2006 01:43 PM                        I personally like to build up movies onto 6k reels so I can personally inspect each 2k reel. Most of the time, I've been getting prints all heads up, but, occassionally, with tails up. After building up onto 6k reels, I rewind them to be heads up and load on to the platter. Of course, this was how I was trained in print building. When breaking down prints, I break them down with heads up, since I don't know if the prints are going to another theatre with either a Changeover system or platter system.  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 07-16-2006 02:09 PM                     I could care less how the print arrives, as long as it is not unwound allover the can or box. This topic is even worse than some of the ones I have started!  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-16-2006 06:53 PM                     quote: Gary Crawford I do ship heads out, as I build and run on 6000s (only 2 reels on the big reels because of the weight and the 5/16" shafts) You should be able to load up those 6k's with as much film as they'll take and have no problems with the 5/16" shafts...so long as when you put them on everyone's gentle and doesn't SLAM them onto the shaft they should run forever. 1/2" is better, of course, but don't be afraid of 5/16".  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 07-16-2006 09:15 PM                     Same here, been running 6000 ft. reels on 5/16 shafts since I found the old 3D magazines behind some junk in a storeroom 20 years ago. The bearings are even still tight, just keep 'em lubed and don't abuse 'em.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-16-2006 09:19 PM                     quote: Bruce McGee as long as it is not unwound allover the can or box. ..yea...nothing more aggrevating than opening a can being full of plastic "spaghetti."  |  IP: Logged Charles Greenlee Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 801 From: Savannah, Ga, U.S. Registered: Jun 2006 posted 07-16-2006 11:10 PM                        Been there a few times. Thanks ETS.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-18-2006 01:54 AM                        quote: John Wilson You should be able to load up those 6k's with as much film as they'll take and have no problems with the 5/16" shafts...so long as when you put them on everyone's gentle and doesn't SLAM them onto the shaft they should run forever. Heck yeah. We have 5/16" here and it's been just fine for 26 years. (Watch it break this Thursday night now.)  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-18-2006 05:24 PM                     Good Lord! Has it come to this???  |  IP: Logged Andrew Peter Chobaniuk Film Handler Posts: 28 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Jul 2006 posted 07-24-2006 05:43 AM                     k, ill whine too i had a lovely thursday night in may where i recieved 3 prints of MI:3 (dont ask me why we had 3 theatres for one movie in a 6plex) every reel was tail i believe it was an 8-reel movie do the math not a very fun night as it was i made up my mind on mi:3 tht night without ever seeing it: crap movie  |  IP: Logged Gary Crawford Expert Film Handler Posts: 200 From: Neptune NJ USA Registered: Nov 2003 posted 07-25-2006 01:48 PM                     I've had as much as about 2-1/2 reels of film plus a couple trailers on one 6K, but I didn't want to push my luck with the weight. The equipment we have was old before I was born, so I like to be nice to it. As far as people being near my stuff, it's just me and my relief man, no one else fiddles with the booth, so any clumsies and slammers aren't around to worry about.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 07-25-2006 01:53 PM                     3 reels fit nicely on a 23" reel. 4 reels fit nicely on a 26" reel. Never had a problem on old equipment running full large reels, other than lifting them on to the feed spindle. Tails Out - Yes!  |  IP: Logged

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