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Topic: Did You Ever Run 70mm Trailers?
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Michael Coate
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posted 12-18-2006 12:43 AM
quote: David Stambaugh
This has little to do with addressing the original question
Oh, but it does! I probably should not have asked the original question in a fashion where it was restricted to changeover projectionists. I thought a specific question would work best, but I suppose a more general question would've interested more readers and perhaps invited more replies. And I was curious how some projectionists chose whether to run 35s or 70s if they had the ability to show either. At any rate, I shouldn't have excluded those of you who attended 70mm presentations as a paying customer.
The real question, then, would be: what the hell did you think of 70mm trailers? Great? False advertising? Prefer 35mm for reason given in my original post? Any interesting trailer stories?
Me? I thought they were great, especially in the '80s since that was about the only way you were gonna hear a trailer in stereo. And it was a kick to see 70mm trailers for movies that were never going to get released that way.
I do have an interesting trailer story, and I wonder how many of you experienced something similar or if any of you changeover guys ever did this?
I saw a LOT of 70mm presentations in a LOT of different theatres. Most theatres where I saw 70mm always ran 70mm trailers (or no trailers at all), including the one 70 house where I once worked. However, the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood was different. When the Chinese would run 70mm features, sometimes the trailers and pre-show stuff was also in 70mm and the other half of the time it was 35mm. But with "Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade" in 1989, they showed a combination of 35mm and 70mm trailers.
The opening-day trailer arrangement was "Ghostbusters II," "Star Trek V," "Black Rain" and "Batman." The "Ghostbusters II" trailer presentation was 35mm/flat/mono; the other three were in 70mm/full-width/stereo. This was the first time I can remember a format change occuring "live." Needless to say, the transition from 35mm trailer #1 to 70mm trailer #2 was fantastic (and even a deaf person would have to agree that the "Star Trek" trailer and everything that followed sounded phenomenal).
[ 12-18-2006, 02:12 AM: Message edited by: Michael Coate ]
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Michael Coate
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posted 01-29-2007 01:30 AM
I just saw a whopping batch of old 70mm trailers on Saturday which, I must admit, was quite a nice way to spend a rainy afternoon. (Yes, believe it or not, it actually rained in Los Angeles!) So the 70mm trailer subject is on my mind again.
quote: Bobby Henderson
Point Break had a 70mm trailer. I just can't remember for sure which 70mm engagement that one preceded.
As I'm sure you remember, Fox had two 70mm releases in late 1990 ("Predator 2" and "Edward Scissorhands") and "Point Break" may have been among the trailers shown with either of them. It may have even been the attached trailer, although my notes suggest otherwise. It seems more likely that you saw the "Point Break" trailer in early to mid '91 with "The Doors," "Backdraft," "The Rocketeer" or "Terminator 2."
quote: Bobby Henderson
I do remember seeing one 35mm trailer (The Price of Tides I think) run on the front of a 70mm showing of Baraka at the UA Cine in Dallas.
I highly doubt "The Prince Of Tides" was one of the trailers seen with "Baraka" considering that particular Streisand film was released two years earlier!
This "Baraka" trailer thing, by the way, is getting weirder and weirder... one member remembers a trailer from a film released two years prior, and another member (this thread) remembers a film released two years after!
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Warren Smyth
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posted 01-31-2007 05:52 AM
I ran 70mm trailers such as Camelot in the late sixties. The programme was entirely 35mm except for the trailer which played just befor interval. In those days, we ran half an hour of shorts, had a twelve minute interval, followed by the feature.
I used to join the last short together with its tail piece intact, to the start of the leader of reel one of the feature. At the end of this short I changed over to the trailer in 70mm and then stopped the other projector on the leader of the incoming reel one of the feature. This avoided having to thread up the feature during interval but could involve a lens and aperture plate change which was done while the 70mm trailer was running.
Advertising slides were shown in those days involving continuous work during the interval and I was on my own. There was insufficient time to thread up the first reel of the feature and this was the era of curtains, lighting effects, overtures and en'tractes.
We had Cinemeccanica Victoria tens and I had obtained some 5,000 foot reels previously used in the fifties for running 3D, which fitted the feed and take up shafts. I think these reels had been made by Kalee and they were painted red or green. I was able to join the whole of the first half together, and still have space for the first reel of the feature. The first half was generally in wide screen unless a scope trailer was run and of course, in this case, it was replaced by the 70mm version.
The take up needed a little help when starting up as it was partly full, so I would leave the bottom magazine door open to remind myself. It was also wise to check the feed spool after the stop, as there was often a loop of film formed which could tug on the feed sprocket when the projector restarted.
I would convert the projector from 70mm to 35mm as well as thread up the second reel of the feature while reel one was running. We had Super Zenith carbon arcs with a separate set of mirrors for each guage to produce the appropriate spot size at the aperture.
The management left me to decide whether to run trailers in 35mm or 70mm. The method was a little unorthodox, involved more work but I considered it worth it, to see the improved results from the 70mm version of the trailer. In some cases, 70mm trailers of features we intended running in 70mm were unavailable.
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