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Ben Wales
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I own a DP70 at home in a Ground Floor Flat in a room about 14ft x 11ft, it's like a honour of owning a Rolls Royce/Bentley car in the projector world than those common Centurys....

You just about move it mounted on wheels and I can stow it away when not in use.

I just wonder how long a Century JJ's last with their original Intermittants etc and why there are still more Philips DP70 in use today than those 70mm Century's?.

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Dan Lyons
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Ben,

What size image do you get in such a small room? Submit some pictures of your screening room setup. [thumbsup]

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Steve Guttag
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35/70 reels (35mm w/70mm spacers) are still available new in the event there are only 70mm shafts on a projector.

Steve

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Ben Wales
You just about move it mounted on wheels and I can stow it away when not in use.

Ben,

I just love that line [thumbsup] ! "Stow it away".... sounds as easy as stowing some life preservers under the deck of a boat. I just keep thinking of the word inertia... and once you actually get it moving is it actually going to stop or continue on through to the neighbors flat..... [Eek!]

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Gordon McLeod
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Well considering he has probably the second largest stash of westrex5000 stuff compared to my collection stowing it might be a space problem [Big Grin]
and if look the norleco dp70 door is actually mounted on his westrex5000

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Gord....Ben,

Why not stop by on the way to Showorst and check out our 5000 parts aisle which is still pretty complete except for stars. Oh, and new 5000 penthouses we have that are still in the box. We could use that parts space to expand on other stuff.
GOT TO GET GOING... I have to go install a loaner JJ intermittent in a thrashed out JJ today down in Orem (Scera Theater). The thrashed part of the JJ will be attended to when I re-install their rebuilt movement on Monday. This machine has only seen about 10 years of service......

Mark

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Ben Wales
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Here are some pictures of my Living Room with the DP70.

Living Room Mode

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Living Room Cinema Mode

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The Screen is a Roller mounted in the Bay Window and it is a Massive 5ft wide and the projection throw is about 8ft.

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Scott Norwood
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Very nice! What anamorphic adapter do you use for showing scope films with such a short throw?

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Louis Bornwasser
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Many more Century 70mm projectors survive than AAII's were made. They are still running the Uptown in Washington and ran the Cine Capri in Phoenix until the end. Many, many multiplexs has them left over from "back in the day."

I agree that there is an aura of respectability with AAII's that does not exist with more contemporary machines. Whether or not this is practical in everyday life in a "Mc Donalds restaurant-style cinema is another question. Not every tech is willing or able to properly support that which is now a labor of love. Whether or not that labor of love will stand up to the hard light of being "worth it" is another question. Louis

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Steve Guttag
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I dunno...The Norelcos that started in the Uptown in the 50s are now in the Bow-Tie Harbour 9...while the JJs in the Uptown do indeed survive (the last I heard)...they have had significantly more work done to them than the Norelcos that are older than them.

The JJs that are in the Uptown historicially were paid very good attention by the projectionists and the service technicans...the Uptown was a special place and most problems were dealt with long before they became show threatening. When you run a pair of projectors day in and day out...and change in their sound becomes immediately noticable and source of said change is discovered...also when you lube up the gears regularly...you see the wear before it becomes a problem...hence preventive maintainence.

As a percentage, it would not surprise me at all that the Norelco AA2s have a current better in-use than the JJ which is more apt to be yanked as it confuses modern booth people. The JJ is not as likely to find a new home...there seems to always be a person that desires or will accept the AA2. You even have Yahoos like Mark making them into dandy 35mm only projectors. Despite its low production volume...you have several choices of basement readers keep it current. The JJ only has Kelmar for the R50 soundhead.

I have no doubt that the total production of JJs far exceed the AA2. You are comparing nearly 50 years against less than 15 years.

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Monte L Fullmer
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VERY GOOOD! Quite interesting on how such a monster of a unit can be so tucked away in a corner of a room and not hog any of the living room up.

One could almost build a nice cabinet to store that thing in-including all of the sound equipment that would take the entire width of that back wall and still make the living room very comfortable looking and not crowded..

My congrats to you on this setup of yours. - Monte

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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This lucky Yahoo has close to 90 DP-70's to tend to. Once a year new bands and thats it. Once every few years new lateral guide rollers. Once in a while a contactor fails. Pretty boring to service... I feel like the Maytag Man!

I serviced JJ #758 today and installed a loaner movement.This is one of the disaster Century's built during the era that Century had lots of problems. With a JJ it HAS to be below S/N 500 to be a good one. This needs all new bearings and the movement rebuilt, has given less than 10 years of service running just nights and Saturdays. The theater has always been closed Sundays. There are less than 6 JJ's in the mountain states that survive today.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Would that have been when ORC had Century before STRONG snagged them up?

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Sam D. Chavez
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I also make an Analog reader for the JJ.

There only seem to be yahoo's and the effete snobs in Steve's world. We know who fits that second description.

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Steve Guttag
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Sam,

I was referring to a basement analog/digital reader for the R50...My apologies...I forgot...most live in a Penthouse world.

Actually...I tend to group exhibitors into 3 or 4 categories. Two you can actually make money with....one you can't but enjoy it anyway...and the last are just a lot of time with no real profit to show for it nor any satisfaction either.

Steve

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