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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Ben Wales
The DP70 is mounted on Wheels
I still think that's quite the kick in seeing this: "Goliath in David's room."

If you picked a Bauer U2 to be along with this, then you'd would have quite the duo there.

Did you have to do some sort of beam spreading techniques from that little lamphouse to fill that 70mm aperture with your unit there?

Great setup anywhos and congrats!

-Monte

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Damien Taylor
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I have a TQ1 with a broken worm, and another similar vintage B&H with a good worm I was going to canabilise. Veering the topic to something thats probably been covered a bazillion times before, but is a working TQ1 a good projector?

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Gerard Bierling
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Emiel's DP 70 comes original from the closed Vreeburg theater in Utrecht and was equipped with SPP, the pulsedlamp from Philips.

That is why the lamptable is different, it was a small lamphouse but it can hold a bigger one.
After mounting shutter,dowser and other stuff it was, together with the one of Tom Beetz, I install them in he MIDI Theater in Tilburg which is, sadly, now closed also.

Gerard

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Louis Bornwasser
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The lamphouse table and machine base were U.S. made on most American machines. Shipping crates still exist in Louisville KY from 1956. The European crates are almost fine furniture, the U.S. crates look like pallets. Louis

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Don Furr
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Ben how are you getting your 3-phase power?

Don

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Louis Bornwasser
The lamphouse table and machine base were U.S. made on most American machines.
YEP! The first ones were made by American Ooptical and the later ones by Ballantyne... before they were sucked up by Wrong International.
If anyone needs any DP-70 parts just drop me a note... we have EVERYTHING in stock!

Mark

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Ben Wales
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quote:
Do you have to do some sort of beam spreading techniques from that little lamphouse to fill that 70mm aperture with your unit there?
I currently use the old Orcon 1000B 700w Zenon and (just) about get away with a Beam Spreader and defocus the Lamp for a 70mm screen, my screen is only about 8ft at home.

quote: Damien Taylor
have a TQ1 with a broken worm, and another similar vintage B&H with a good worm I was going to canabilise. Veering the topic to something thats probably been covered a bazillion times before, but is a working TQ1 a good projector?

Yes they are, I have two of them and use quite a lot in the Winter for 16mm Race Nights, both had new Worm Gears when I bought them.

There are several people in the UK would still repair these, I would change the old A1/258 for a A1/259 Lamp and base.

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Scott Norwood
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Tell us about the large-reel system for the 16mm projector. Is this something homemade, or is (was?) it a commercially available product? Does it work reliably?

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Ben Wales
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quote: Scott Norwood
Tell us about the large-reel system for the 16mm projector.
That was made in the UK by Bell & Howell for the TQ1 (656) Projector range.

The back feet of the projector would seat on the base of the long play spool arm centre post and another arm would swing down and clamped up on the front feed arm of the projector.

The Take-up was a slipping belt arrangement as the spool got heavier the Torque take-up would be higher.

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Sean Weitzel
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I'm planning to use an ORC M1000 behind a Century JJ very soon here for my home screening room. Can anyone tell me where I can buy a beam spreader that will work with this kind of setup for 70mm? I'm looking at about a 19 foot throw from lens to screen.

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Don Furr
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Sean I tried using a 1K lamp behind my V8 35/70 and it just wouldn't cut it for a 22 foot throw. I had to go up to a 1600 watt lamp. That made all the difference.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Kinda wondering if a spreader lens from an old Christie CH-10/20 console snood would work with these small ORC lamphouses.

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Louis Bornwasser
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You may not need a beam spreader for the ORC 1000 if you just remove the condensing les and adjust the working distance some. Expect to pay $800+ for a beam spreader. Louis

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Sean Weitzel
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yikes 800 bucks! I'm just a little old film collector who has an eclectic hobby [Smile] I think I'll have to try it out first and see what the results are before I decide if I need different hardware. Thanks for the advice.

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Scott Norwood
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Don--how big is your screen?

In my screening room setup, I use 500w lamps in Cinemeccanica lamphouses with Century 35mm projectors (with 100-degree shutters, even) and find that the image is plenty bright for an 8' wide scope image, as well as all other formats (common height setup). Throw is something like 25'.

Either your screen is much bigger than mine or the ORC lamphouses really suck.

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