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Author Topic: New Christie P-35GP Pulley Kit Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-03-2008 04:58 PM                     quote: Tim Reed Christie's involve each and every unit. Tim... hardly... now as a tech thats working for one of the larger repair companies(?) you also don't want to be misleading regarding any brand of equipment... In reality the only P-35's that cannot be easily repaired are the straight gate versions of which no spare gate parts exist at Christie. Although those of us who are a bit more resourceful than the larger repair companies are still able to maintain them with little trouble. Now in all fairness and since I like to discuss all brands...I'll mention all the goofy versions of X-L straight gates... mainly the Cineplex Version and several others that Strong built whose parts are also NLA.... Again being resoursful pays off on these too! Tim... no brand is foolproof my friend! At least we all have to hand it to Christie for not going to sleep on the P-35 as other companies have on their slow selling projecton products. Mark  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-04-2008 09:03 AM                       No, I wouldn't want to mislead anyone. That's why I wouldn't give a P-35 to my worst enemy! You're the only one who's misleading people, pal, and nearly everyone knows it. Are you trying to apply for a job with Christie or something? FWIW, I give credit where credit's due. And I've been in this business a lot longer than you have, so don't tell me how to do my job. I know you think you're the greatest tech to come down the pike and what you say - regardless of whether it's right or wrong - must be taken as gospel, but there are many minds here greater than thou, and they seem to disagree with your assessment. So, if you can depart from your ego for a moment, please tell me where I've given the impression that I think certain lines of projectors are the best ever? Hummmm? I don't think I've stated anything to that effect. I've always said Christie has winners with AW-3R platters and SLC consoles, but that's the extent of it. I wouldn't give two hoots for the rest of their film equipment. Further, I've always loved Centurys and Super Lumexes, so that transcends the circumstances of my employment. Neither do I make or design them. You have a lot of room to talk about being forthright and resourceful. How about misleading people on, oh... let's say shipping practices or lack thereof? That's a woefully poor use of ones resources. I'll just leave this part at that. Feel free to PM me for details. If you need reminding, I still have all the emails. Regardless, why don't you just start another thread about how much you hate Strong, and stop the drivel and whining in all the other posts? You keep directing your anger towards me like I run the company or something. I'm just a tech in the field. [edit: spelling correction] [ 03-04-2008, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: Tim Reed ]  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-04-2008 05:17 PM                     Tim, You can think what you like... I really could care less. But we do agree on two things... Century and Super Lumex's. I also happen to like Strong Switchers.. excellent product if properly implemented at install! Beyond that stuff not much else they make though... Do I hate Strong... absolutely not. Strong has been a big help on many things over the years, especially when I was doing dailies... but they have also dropped the ball way too many times over the years with theor parts department being the worst of the worst for shipping you the wrong parts(not that Christie hasn't either). Since Christie did some "house cleaning" a few years back the company overall has improved incredibly well and I have yet to see the ball dropped... I think Brad would agree! Strong could use a good jolt of the same "house cleaning" plan in certain areas. Overall Christie is just the more responsive of the companies for me which is why I side more with them. Their present product is not only well performing but its reasonably priced and well supported if the need does arise. Reasonably priced is ery important since we will be taking most film projectors to the scrap yard in a few years time. Would I like to work for Christie... possibly... but I'm not vieing for a job there... They do represent to me the more professionally run of all the projector manufacturers comparing them to other large corporations I've worked for in past years. Mark  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 03-04-2008 07:24 PM                       So what we have established in the last couple of days is there are several opinionated guys on this post, Steve, Mark, Tim, and of course, me. We need to cut each other some slack. This is supposed to be fun first otherwise it's too much like work.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-04-2008 10:53 PM                     Well guys for what it's worth I can offer the following input. *The Christie machines of the late 90s were shit. Utter, pure shit. I detest them. *The Christie machines coming out of the factory over the last few years are FANTASTIC!!! Seriously, I'll put them up against a Kinoton...and that's a bold statement. (Plus I haven't even had the chance yet to install one of their new belt kits and I am still telling you the picture is amazingly rock steady, plus their turrets have so much fine tuning adjustments available to them that you can get the image alignment simply perfect.) *I was in a Christie booth I had installed 3 days ago and walked by and noticed the CP650 doing something odd that you don't see every day. The error rate was reading "0". Not "0.", not "1", but "0", and holding! (Sure it was on a BACP penthouse reader, but still. ) So to conclude, what have we learned here from my post? *Old Christies are shit. Tim and Steve are right. *Current and recent Christies are amazing. Mark is right. *BACP readers kick ass. Sam is awesome.  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 03-04-2008 10:59 PM                       Well, what can one say after that? Thank you, the checks in the mail, etc... What film was playing?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-05-2008 12:08 AM                     It was Spiderwick Chronicles, but seeing that prompted me to take a look at the other screens and "2" was the highest error rate in the entire building.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 03-05-2008 09:20 PM                       I apologize for going off the deep end, guys. Mark's "pot-calling-the-kettle-black" allusion to me misleading people was the last straw. It's the Irish in me. So, if this Christie kit is a "fix" (though I'm not holding my breath), I would be completely open to trying it on the ten units I have -- but who will pay for it? Someone mentioned Christie buying back their DD basement readers? Is this still a going thing? All of the readers in this plex are useless.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-05-2008 09:57 PM                     Tim.... I'm not pointing my finger at you in the least... we are like Sam says both very opinionated... I've never known a tech or dealer in this biz that wasn't very opinionated... even the quite ones like my boss are opinionated.... probably even more so. Anyway I reccomend that you wait about a month before ordering the kits. I was installing four of them today and I discovered that the toothed idler's bearing was too loose in its bore. Christie(or actually Gates who makes them)does a test where they apply 10 pounds of force to the bearing after its pressed in and it should hold... Well I could push these out with my thumb and about a pound of force... Two of the kits are in and running ok with the loose bearings till tommrrow and a check of the other kits we had in stock back at the shop showed that some were loose and some not... So the idlers that are ok will be here tommrrow and I can replace the idlers in the two machines I did today and then do the other two. Jim G. said it'll take them about a month to work this out through Gates... with Showorst comming up and all. All in all though the two that I did finish up run very smoothly. When you do them don't over-tension these belts... they should run sort of loose, the correct mount of tension being just enough to keep the belt teeth from riding up on the intermittent pulley. Allow two hours to do the first kit install.. then about an hour for each after that... oh and have a gear puller of the correct size available to pull the sprocket timming pulleys off... these machines were about 12 years old and they didn't let go very easily! Mark  |  IP: Logged

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