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Topic: Tips on screening rooms
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Steve Beverly
Film Handler
Posts: 83
From: El Paso, Tx.,
Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 11-25-2007 10:23 PM
Well it's not so much compromise as what is possible at this point. If the ISCO is say a 20K lens just for the sake of argument, It' not a possibility, plain and simple, that money would be spent elsewhere like production and we would have to go with a different anamorphic projector lens. Now if that lens is a few hundred dollars and I have to wait until I could afford it, I would bit the bullet and do so. I guess what I'm saying is I want the best image I can afford, the "I can afford" being the operative words. I woulda LIKE to have had a brand new Arri BL4 with a set of Hawk anamorphics to shoot with BUT my budget over-ruled that as well. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I need to project dailies with a reasonably close representation of what the image will look like in theaters and to see if what I'm doing production and editing wise is working on the big screen, if the focus is soft, if the movement is overwhelming, is the story being moved along by the cuts, does that scene that seemed to work on the KEM, actually work when projected by the Simplex (on whatever I end up getting), ect.
As for sound, The projector will be interlocked with a Magna-Sync sound reproducer, very old school because I don't want to go through the expense of an HD transfer and the equipment to edit on HD. (DV or HDV transfer is not a reasonable option) for us. It will be edited on mag reels and mixed down on a 24 track recorder then transfered to a M&E 35mm mag reel and a dialog mag reel.
Those will be sent to an audio post house and an optical sound print will be struck, the negative with a cut list will be sent to a commercial motion picture lab and the negative will be cut (I'm a little leary of doing that myself but I might change my mind as time goes on) and an answer print will be struck. If I DO have to modernize the sound head, I will do so as again my budget will allow for. Remember, I am new to projection so there are thing I do need to learn and I freely admit that....which is why I'm asking people like yourself who are actually in the know about such things. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Scott Norwood
Film God
Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-27-2007 08:06 AM
If you will just be showing your own films, then you do not need the LED reader soundhead upgrade. Just be sure to order your release prints with either "silver" or "high-magenta" optical tracks. These are pretty much standard for small print runs, anyway, and will play fine on any soundhead. Obviously, none of this is an issue when running interlocked sound on the dubber.
What are your plans for sound--i.e. will you be mixing for mono, some variant of Dolby Stereo, or digital? If you will be doing multichannel mixes, you will need 2- 3- or maybe 6-track heads for the dubbers and also a mag preamp and some sort of processor, as well as (maybe) an outboard NR unit (or several). If you want to advertise "Dolby Stereo" or "Dolby Digital" (or "DTS" or "SDDS") with your films, you will need to look into licensing.
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Cameron Glendinning
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 845
From: West Ryde, Sydney, NSW Australia
Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 11-27-2007 05:54 PM
$3200, Not nearly as scary as 20k! But you will still find that its probably the most expesive option.
quote: Steve Beverly
I need to project dailies with a reasonably close representation of what the image will look like in theaters
Well what you will be working with could potentially be of a noticably higher standard than avalable to even the best movie theatres. Prints made directly off the original neg are noticably better than release print quality.
Personally I guess you want to make the mag rig portable I would suggest a truck, a portable projection room on wheels! Can you wire the mag to more than 1 projector? Do you really need more than one projector, the few times I've run sync rushes, running seperate spools one at a time has not been an issue, cheaking the leader and the beep are in sync are a must see! ( In cinemas we spend our days tring to avoid letting the audience see leaders!)
If your in the position to order your own type of soundtrack, cyan readers are only important to know about before ordering your prints!
What sort of speakers, amps, audio processer?
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Steve Beverly
Film Handler
Posts: 83
From: El Paso, Tx.,
Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 11-28-2007 05:21 PM
Beautiful shot Emeil, love the lighting, but I just have to wonder where you got the inspiration for you story These little Konvas' are amazing camera, huh!
Here's what I've own sound wise for sound sweeting, FX and Dolby
AKAI Professional S950 Midi sampler with manual
LYNX Time Code Module with LYNX FILM INTERFACE MODULE with both manuals
DOLBY A Type Model 350 ENCODE/Record
DOLBY A Type Model 350 Decode/PB
JL Cooper MIDI MUTE with MIDI Ch 2 Modem
Calzone Case
I know this stuff is a little old but that's what I've got, as for a mixer, I have this dinasour TASCAM that I'm not even sure if it works so I'll probably have to replace that. I DOOO also JUST happen to have a 6 track head that is brand new in the box and came with my Film reproducers!
I have 2 of the film reproducers and a box truck I'm restoring to use as my camera truck which could be set-up to use as a portable projection booth as well.
$3200 buck is still way outta my price range for a projection lens, I guess I'll just have to wait ans see what comes up on Ebay. I saw an ISCO that went cheap today but I have something else I want to get so I'm saving my cash for that. As far as the licensing goes, it'll depend on what kind of a deal I make with a distributer once the film is completed, if he thinks it's a valuable sales tool, more than likely he'll pay to use the Dolby name, we'll just have to see. As for sound, given my limited budget, what would you boys recommend? I had thought maybe a home surround sound. I've got a pair of old movie theater speakers but have never tested them and their not huge. Their were meant to hang ans are kinda triangle shaped. I am open to suggestions but pleas remember this has got to be done on the cheap so older equipment that will work is definitely a consideration, probably a necessity!
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Steve Beverly
Film Handler
Posts: 83
From: El Paso, Tx.,
Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 11-28-2007 09:28 PM
Weelll, Bri, let try and explain it to you, the thing about investors is they are investing and want their money back with a reasonable guarantee of profit in the shortest time possible which means very few want to invest in high risk ventures like film making ESPECIALLY if someone such as myself has no track record. Now I also live in El Paso, Texas which is not generally known as the nexus of the artist and cultural world so there are VERY few investors of any type here and what there are tend to invest outside of the area believing there is no talent worth supporting locally or donate to the more traditional artist institution such as the symphony and opera. Thirdly, investors tend to make demands, micro manage and take any profit from any artist venture they are associated with which generally does not sit well with the artist. Fourthly it is generally accepted that on first film independent productions it is self financed for the above reasons. There is the additional problem that there are NO support facilities in El Paso such as labs, post houses, audio houses, studios, film equipment rentals, ect. which means I have essentially been forced to create a small studio from scratch.
I have had the very good fortune to have a friend who live in Juarez just across the Mexican boarder and has a 10 ton and 8 ton lighting and Grip trucks with a large diesel genny parked at my facility. I have been able to gather over the last few years, 2 full 35mm anamorphic camera packages for A and B camera, steadyicam and animation shots, a steadicam package, a full Nagra sound recording package, a camera crane, a Brey 35mm motion picture film processing machine a Mitchell step printer, 2 KEM flatbed editing tables with all three head, scope, academy and widescreen, a Moviola film trim bin with sound ans picture splicers a High speed rewind, a camera truck, an MTM 35mm/16mm dubber, 2 Magna-Sync 35mm film reproducers with a projector sync unit, a Magna-Tech 600 35mm film recorder all of which I have paid for out of my own pocket or borrowed money for that I need to pay back. I still need to get a Moviola upright with 'scope bubble, an optical printer, 35mm projector w/ 'scope lens, an edge coding machine, various expendables, long shaft rewinds, a motorhome set up to do hair and make-up in addition to production funds and the 1000 and 1 pieces of support equipment a production requires on a film shoot as well as paying my studio's rent, phone and electricity.
So I'm sorry you find the low budget film making mind set so un-inspiring as I happen to find it positively religious and heroic, despite the enormous challenges, expense, disappointments and odds against us, we take what every we have and can get our hands on and make it work. THAT'S why I need things cheap, because there is SOOOOO FREAKIN' much money that has to be spent in order to make a film that it is MIND-BOGGLING. I have, by doing things the way I'm doing them, IE creating a mini film studio, allowed myself the possibility of making several films and bringing an industry to this God-forsaken wasteland.
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